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Old August 13th 03, 04:34 AM
Jim Yanik
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in
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"Drewe Manton" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" waxed lyrical
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Quite so and most employers dont like those on their premises
either.


They don't? That'll explain the edgy look I get from the boss when I
show up with my Claymore then. Or perhaps it's the words "This end
towards boss" engraved on the blade?


When I worked for McDermott Engineering London our terms
and conditions were obviously lifted straight from the US
version , one clause read

"Employees shall not bring firearms onto company premises
without written permission from their immediate supervisor'
'Shotguns and other long arms may be left in a vehicle in the
parking lot'

Keith




So what stops a person intent on going on a killing spree? Are there armed
guards at all the entrances? Metal detectors? Maybe just a sign?


"weapon-free zone,no weapons allowed",that oughta work.Yup.

Ever notice the shooting sprees happen where it's supposed to be a "gun-
free" zone? No one will have the capability of firing back,guaranteed.

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Old August 13th 03, 08:20 AM
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Jim Yanik waxed lyrical
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Ever notice the shooting sprees happen where it's supposed to be a

"gun-
free" zone?


And by the same standard nearly every "shooting spree" carried out,
at least here in the UK, was carried out using legally held, properly
licensed weapons. In spite of my extreme opposition to the handgun ban
in this country, I do find that fact pretty telling.
Big fan of gun *control*, fierce opponent of gun *bans* here.

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Old August 13th 03, 03:58 PM
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Drewe Manton wrote in
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Jim Yanik waxed lyrical
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Ever notice the shooting sprees happen where it's supposed to be a

"gun-
free" zone?


And by the same standard nearly every "shooting spree" carried out,
at least here in the UK, was carried out using legally held, properly
licensed weapons. In spite of my extreme opposition to the handgun ban
in this country, I do find that fact pretty telling.
Big fan of gun *control*, fierce opponent of gun *bans* here.


That's probably because the ones who have illegal guns don't do 'shooting
sprees'. But don't the Yardies do 'drive-bys'? ISTR that they do a fair
amount of gun crime.

Your version of "gun control" is really *people* control,gun control is
hitting what you are firing at.

The authorities ever catch who killed Jill Dando,BBC commentator?

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Old August 13th 03, 04:18 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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Drewe Manton wrote in
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Jim Yanik waxed lyrical
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Ever notice the shooting sprees happen where it's supposed to be a

"gun-
free" zone?


And by the same standard nearly every "shooting spree" carried out,
at least here in the UK, was carried out using legally held, properly
licensed weapons. In spite of my extreme opposition to the handgun ban
in this country, I do find that fact pretty telling.
Big fan of gun *control*, fierce opponent of gun *bans* here.


That's probably because the ones who have illegal guns don't do 'shooting
sprees'. But don't the Yardies do 'drive-bys'? ISTR that they do a fair
amount of gun crime.


Drive by's are rather rare and make the national
headlines when they happen

Your version of "gun control" is really *people* control,gun control is
hitting what you are firing at.

The authorities ever catch who killed Jill Dando,BBC commentator?


Yep he was a loner who had been thrown out of his local
gun club and the TA (equivalent to national guard)

Keith


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Old August 13th 03, 04:20 PM
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Jim Yanik waxed lyrical
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Your version of "gun control" is really *people* control,gun control is
hitting what you are firing at.


No argument here. But then, some people need to be controlled and
certainly more than *some* people should be denied access to firearms,
and this is where I have the problem with the ban, it was a simplistic
knee-jerk reaction to poor vetting procedures which allowed unstable
people with a history of mental health problems to legally hold licenses
and firearms in spite of advice to the contrary (See Dunblane).


The authorities ever catch who killed Jill Dando,BBC commentator?

Yup, man jailed a year or more ago.


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Old August 13th 03, 05:27 PM
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:58:12 +0000 (UTC), Jim Yanik
wrote:

Drewe Manton wrote in
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Jim Yanik waxed lyrical
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Ever notice the shooting sprees happen where it's supposed to be a

"gun-
free" zone?


And by the same standard nearly every "shooting spree" carried out,
at least here in the UK, was carried out using legally held, properly
licensed weapons. In spite of my extreme opposition to the handgun ban
in this country, I do find that fact pretty telling.
Big fan of gun *control*, fierce opponent of gun *bans* here.


That's probably because the ones who have illegal guns don't do 'shooting
sprees'. But don't the Yardies do 'drive-bys'? ISTR that they do a fair
amount of gun crime.

Your version of "gun control" is really *people* control,gun control is
hitting what you are firing at.


Of course "gun control" is also "people control," but it makes more
sense to call it "gun control" than "people control" because everybody
knows "guns" are used by "people."

If you just called it "people control," nobody would have any fricking
idea what was being discussed. This is because "people" use many
things besides "guns."

Yes, "gun control" could be confused with the physical positioning of
a gun by a person, rather than legislative or judicial control of a
society's access to fireamrs. But I bet I can think of a hell of a lot
more alternate meanings of "people control" than "gun control."

By the way, I do own guns and am against bans on gun ownership. I just
get annoyed when people try to politisize semantics. As if it really
matters whether one calls the glass half full or half empty.


The authorities ever catch who killed Jill Dando,BBC commentator?


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Old August 14th 03, 04:03 AM
Jim Yanik
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El *******o El wrote in
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:58:12 +0000 (UTC), Jim Yanik
wrote:

Drewe Manton wrote in
. 1.4:

Jim Yanik waxed lyrical
:

Ever notice the shooting sprees happen where it's supposed to be a
"gun-
free" zone?

And by the same standard nearly every "shooting spree" carried
out,
at least here in the UK, was carried out using legally held,
properly licensed weapons. In spite of my extreme opposition to the
handgun ban in this country, I do find that fact pretty telling.
Big fan of gun *control*, fierce opponent of gun *bans* here.


That's probably because the ones who have illegal guns don't do
'shooting sprees'. But don't the Yardies do 'drive-bys'? ISTR that
they do a fair amount of gun crime.

Your version of "gun control" is really *people* control,gun control
is hitting what you are firing at.


Of course "gun control" is also "people control," but it makes more
sense to call it "gun control" than "people control" because everybody
knows "guns" are used by "people."

If you just called it "people control," nobody would have any fricking
idea what was being discussed. This is because "people" use many
things besides "guns."

Yes, "gun control" could be confused with the physical positioning of
a gun by a person, rather than legislative or judicial control of a
society's access to fireamrs. But I bet I can think of a hell of a lot
more alternate meanings of "people control" than "gun control."

By the way, I do own guns and am against bans on gun ownership. I just
get annoyed when people try to politisize semantics. As if it really
matters whether one calls the glass half full or half empty.


The authorities ever catch who killed Jill Dando,BBC commentator?




Well,my opinion on this is that most 'gun control' denies people their
choice to defend themselves and their homes/property,without due process.
And yes,there are many forms of "people control".

Most criminals seem well able to bypass gun control laws,if they wish to
have a firearm,no matter what country.

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Old August 14th 03, 04:05 AM
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PS;since this is off-topic for this NG,that's the last of my comments on
this.Feel free to visit talk.politics.guns for any further discussion.



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