Defence plan to scrap F-111s

"Brash" wrote in message
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"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"The CO" wrote in message
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Move 3 RAR up to Enoggera.

Yep.


Great idea, it will **** away a small fortune in moving troops to and
from
PTS at Nowra and flying Hercs up to Amberley to pick up troops for Para
continuation, exercises and so on.

You must be out of the loop dip****. PTS have been known pack up their
bongos and operate out of Amberley (especially during winter) and the long
term plan is for Airlift Group to **** off from Richmond and move
to................... Amberley. Last time I strapped on a parachute and
jumped out of serviceable aircraft in-flight was from Amberley. Funny,
didn't see any gates.


3RAR is in Holsworthy because it is convenient to RAAF Richmond and PTS.

PTS should never have gone to Nowra in the first place. A questionable
decision if there ever was one.

If the DoD needs the opinion of a gate guard they will no doubt dictate it
to you.

"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"Brash" wrote in message
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"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"The CO" wrote in message
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Move 3 RAR up to Enoggera.

Yep.


Great idea, it will **** away a small fortune in moving troops to and
from
PTS at Nowra and flying Hercs up to Amberley to pick up troops for
Para
continuation, exercises and so on.

You must be out of the loop dip****. PTS have been known pack up their
bongos and operate out of Amberley (especially during winter) and the
long
term plan is for Airlift Group to **** off from Richmond and move
to................... Amberley. Last time I strapped on a parachute and
jumped out of serviceable aircraft in-flight was from Amberley. Funny,
didn't see any gates.


3RAR is in Holsworthy because it is convenient to RAAF Richmond and
PTS.

PTS should never have gone to Nowra in the first place. A questionable
decision if there ever was one.

If the DoD needs the opinion of a gate guard they will no doubt dictate it
to you.

And if they ever need strategic advice from an ex-private grunt, I'll give
them your number.

You're dismissed now Private (Rtd).

--
De Oppresso Liber.

"Brash" wrote in message
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PTS should never have gone to Nowra in the first place. A questionable
decision if there ever was one.

If the DoD needs the opinion of a gate guard they will no doubt dictate
it
to you.

And if they ever need strategic advice from an ex-private grunt, I'll give
them your number.

You're dismissed now Private (Rtd).

Poor gate guard, you are a second rate loser and you know it.

That must hurt.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:25:38 +1000, "L'acrobat"
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Poor gate guard, you are a second rate loser and you know it.

Gate guards ain't in military uniform these days, Sunshine! The job
has been contracted out to civvy security companies.

Ipso facto, Brash ain't on a gate!!

"smithxpj" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:25:38 +1000, "L'acrobat"
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Poor gate guard, you are a second rate loser and you know it.

Gate guards ain't in military uniform these days, Sunshine! The job
has been contracted out to civvy security companies.

Ipso facto, Brash ain't on a gate!!

Correct, they can't be trusted to carry out their only useful function any
longer.

It was the high point of his undistinguished career.

"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"smithxpj" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:25:38 +1000, "L'acrobat"
wrote:


Poor gate guard, you are a second rate loser and you know it.

Gate guards ain't in military uniform these days, Sunshine! The job
has been contracted out to civvy security companies.

Ipso facto, Brash ain't on a gate!!

Correct, they can't be trusted to carry out their only useful function
any
longer.

AHEM!

Gentlemen. I realise that you have deep seated and perhaps
insurmountable differences of personality
and opinion, however this is getting out of hand.

M. L'Acrobat. As I am sure you *are* aware, the function of the ADG's
is to protect RAAF assets against
enemy action, particularly (though not exclusively) special forces type
attacks. You and Brash can play verbal
ping pong with each other all day if you like, Your constant ridiculing
of ADG's as a group is seriously discrediting a fine bunch of
professional fighting
men who are *at least* as good at small unit ground defence within their
specialist area as any infantry unit
of similar size and composition in the army. Emphasis on *specialist
area*. Key point protection is their
major role and they *are* very good at it. Consider who their likely
opposition would be and you understand
*why* they need to be very good at it.
They are skilled *way* beyond the 'gate guard' level, and you would only
see them in that role if the facility were
on a very high state of alert. Otherwise it's farmed out to civvie
security guards who are probably adequate at
that level. If you want to keep a long range sniping engagement with
Brash going, fill yer boots, however *I* would
appreciate it if you ceased to disparage an entire combat specialty in
the process.

Brash, you have quite a different perspective on things military than
L'Acrobat and that creates some marked differences
of opinion that a clash of personality tends to ramp up to an all out
****fight. You might also appreciate that L'Acrobat has
a *different* perspective as a former infantryman, and he naturally
tends to focus on that which seems important according to
his experience and training. I'm not suggesting you bury the hatchet, I
suspect that's unlikely at best, (except in respective heads)
but you might want to consider toning it down a notch, especially in
view of the bandwidth you are both consuming in here on what
is becoming mostly personal attacks and not debate (however heated). As
such it doesn't do either of you credit.

That said, it's a (mostly) free net and I have no authority to tell
anyone what to do (or not do), so if you disregard my advice, so be it.

However other members of the group might appreciate a little more debate
with a little less personal attack in the process...

Just my 2c worth, make of it what you will...

The CO