KOSU Arrival ATIS

In a previous article, Ron Natalie said:
procedures. Another problem with the old frequency was that
it was actually in use by ATC and when blazing up from Milwaukee
you'd actually hear planes talking to ATC on it.

I had that problem crossing Lake Michigan in 2005. Then ATIS was saying
that the camping was full, but when we landed there were plenty of spots.

Personally, I think they should tell people who don't have the NOTAM to
get the **** out of the airspace rather than tying up the frequency like
that moron last year.

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Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
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tapes hurtling down the highway.
-- Andrew Tannenbaum possibly quoting Warren Jackson

Paul Tomblin wrote:

I had that problem crossing Lake Michigan in 2005. Then ATIS was saying
that the camping was full, but when we landed there were plenty of spots.

Spots on the field open and close throughout the show. Combine this
with the fact that there are no fewer than three classes of parking
these days because of endless turf wars between homebuilders, warbirds,
antique/classic, etc...


Personally, I think they should tell people who don't have the NOTAM to
get the **** out of the airspace rather than tying up the frequency like
that moron last year.


That would work for me. Tell them to go to Appleton and read the NOTAM.
But sometimes it's better to get the idiots out of the air and on the
ground where they can do less harm.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message m...
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: That would work for me. Tell them to go to Appleton and read the NOTAM.
: But sometimes it's better to get the idiots out of the air and on the
: ground where they can do less harm.



They should also be written up for not having all the information pertinent to the flight...

Blueskies wrote:
"Ron Natalie" wrote in message m...
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: That would work for me. Tell them to go to Appleton and read the NOTAM.
: But sometimes it's better to get the idiots out of the air and on the
: ground where they can do less harm.



They should also be written up for not having all the information pertinent to the flight...


Frankly, the last thing we need is FAA enforcement trolling around for
business at Oshkosh.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

Frankly, the last thing we need is FAA enforcement trolling around for
business at Oshkosh.


Probably. But it wouldn't hurt to have greater enforcement of FARs that
actually have an adverse affect on others.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message m...
: Blueskies wrote:
: "Ron Natalie" wrote in message m...
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: :
: : That would work for me. Tell them to go to Appleton and read the NOTAM.
: : But sometimes it's better to get the idiots out of the air and on the
: : ground where they can do less harm.
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: They should also be written up for not having all the information pertinent to the flight...
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: Frankly, the last thing we need is FAA enforcement trolling around for
: business at Oshkosh.


Well, if we have laws, they should be enforced. If the law is not necessary it should be removed. Selective enforcement
has a lot to do with the problems we have in this country...

Well, if we have laws, they should be enforced. If the law is not necessary it should be removed. Selective enforcement
has a lot to do with the problems we have in this country...


Don't get me freaking started on here. We don't have laws.
We have a sham of a regulatory process which even thought one
agency is tasked with enacting them, enforcing them, and judging
them, they still make ad hoc rules and interpretations that
make a sham of even their own self-centered regulation
system. It leads to a lot of abuse which is nothing short
of unconstitutional deprivation of liberty and property
without due process of law.

So yes, the FAA needs reform. Until then, keep the regulatory
jack boots away from the major events when they are not strictly needed.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

That would work for me. Tell them to go to Appleton and read the NOTAM.
But sometimes it's better to get the idiots out of the air and on the
ground where they can do less harm.


The NOTAM has arrival procedures for Appleton as well. Perhaps an airport
less impacted by the event would be a better choice.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
That would work for me. Tell them to go to Appleton and read the NOTAM.
But sometimes it's better to get the idiots out of the air and on the
ground where they can do less harm.


The NOTAM has arrival procedures for Appleton as well. Perhaps an airport
less impacted by the event would be a better choice.



Yeah, but it's just listen to the ATIS and call the tower. There are
a few reporting points marked, but it's not anywhere as involved as any
of the Wittman field arrivals.