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Kev writes:
On a warm clear day (which is when I've hit my own wake), I betcha that the wake is being held upward a tiny bit by the heat from the ground. Then you must be descending through the rising column of air. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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On Apr 16, 10:45 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Kev writes: On a warm clear day (which is when I've hit my own wake), I betcha that the wake is being held upward a tiny bit by the heat from the ground. Then you must be descending through the rising column of air. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. You are such an idiot! Probably every GA pilot-in-training with a C152/172 or something similar has experienced hitting their own wake when performing their first steep turn with an instructor. I know I did. I routinely show non-flying friends this phenomenon when I take them flying. But go ahead...keep arguing with experience that you don't have. --Jeff |
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JB writes:
You are such an idiot! Probably every GA pilot-in-training with a C152/172 or something similar has experienced hitting their own wake when performing their first steep turn with an instructor. Steep turns tend to be descending turns. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... JB writes: You are such an idiot! Probably every GA pilot-in-training with a C152/172 or something similar has experienced hitting their own wake when performing their first steep turn with an instructor. Steep turns tend to be descending turns. Trim Luke! Trim. You forgot the Jedi Trim. |
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Maxwell writes:
Trim Luke! Trim. Add power. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Maxwell writes: Trim Luke! Trim. Add power. That's right Luke, add the power of the trim!!!!! Now your are getting it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Maxwell writes:
That's right Luke, add the power of the trim!!!!! No, power instead of trim. You need more lift. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
JB writes: You are such an idiot! Probably every GA pilot-in-training with a C152/172 or something similar has experienced hitting their own wake when performing their first steep turn with an instructor. Steep turns tend to be descending turns. Yeah, when playing Microsoft flying games; not for real pilots. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Mxsmanic,
Steep turns tend to be descending turns. Why does anyone bother arguing with this idiot? Please! -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Mxsmanic, Steep turns tend to be descending turns. Why does anyone bother arguing with this idiot? Please! No, no, Thomas. He's right, but you have to force fit your mental processes into a replica of his very limited ones. As everyone else but Anthony knows, steep turns do indeed TEND to be descending turns, unless specific action is taken to remain at a constant altitude. The fact that any competent pilot can complete a 360 within 10 feet of the initial altitude seems to escape him. Unfortunately, Anthony cannot make the simple leap from assuming his vaunted "research" is correct, even though it provides the wrong answer, to asking himself, "Let me assume that the empirical experiments conducted by hundreds of thousands of real world pilots provide hypothetical proof that an aircraft, completing a 360 degree turn at a constant altitude, can indeed run through its own wake. What new assumptions must I make to make this so, and how can I verify those assumptions?" That's how science works. Anthony thinks it's done by referring to un-quotable armchair research about very restricted, generally incorrect assumptions on his part. Then, when he is wrong, he becomes repetitive, pedantic, and frustrated. Oh well. The entire thread has forced me to ask myself just what the wake behind an aircraft looks like. Like every other pilot, I know you can intercept your own wake during a constant altitude turn, but it would be neat to be able to SEE all of the air masses at work. Modern computation isn't up to the task of separating out all of the variables involved. Which is why a simulator, any simulator, is a very limited substitute for reality. Poor Anthony. Rip |
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