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Old April 16th 07, 06:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:
rq3 writes:


The wake consists of more than just the downwash you
are fixated on. If you have ever seen a sky-writer at work, you would
know, even without setting foot in a real aircraft, that it is possible
to return to the same parcel of air and pass through the smoke you had
left previously.



I never questioned that.


On a calm day, no descending or climbing is required.



How do you know? What skywriting have you done?

About 200 hours aerobatics with smoke. What skywriting have YOU done?

Rip
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Old April 16th 07, 06:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:

rq3 writes:


Still fixated on the idea that the downwash is the only component of
wake, huh, Anthony?



I've never been fixated on such a notion. All of the wake behind an aircraft
descends, including the downwash.

Please provide a reliable reference for that staement.

Rip
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Old April 16th 07, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Maxwell writes:

Trim Luke! Trim.


Add power.

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Old April 16th 07, 06:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Maxwell writes:

Trim Luke! Trim.


Add power.


That's right Luke, add the power of the trim!!!!! Now your are getting
it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  #155  
Old April 16th 07, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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What is the vertical component of the vector if you have the wake traveling
outward perpindicular to the wings? It will be 150' from the original path,
but at an angle to vertical.

mike

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On Apr 16, 9:41 am, Jose wrote:
I seem to recall recent magazine (web?) articles where the idea that
you can hit your own wake while actually holding altitude, should be
downplayed nowadays. You _have_ to descend a little bit to do so,


How tall is the wake?


Good point. Still, using the calculator at:

http://www.csgnetwork.com/aircraftturninfocalc.html

It's going to take about 30 seconds to fly a 360 steep turn at
100kts. My wake _should_ descend about 150' during that time (300
fpm). I can't imagine a C172 wake being tall enough to stay in my
way unless something else is ocurring (me descending, or the wake
staying up).

Would love to hear a decent explanation. Kev



  #156  
Old April 16th 07, 07:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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And maintaining you altitude above the ground via altimeter...

mike

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Then you must be descending through the rising column of air.

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Old April 16th 07, 07:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Maxwell writes:

That's right Luke, add the power of the trim!!!!!


No, power instead of trim. You need more lift.

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Old April 16th 07, 07:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Rip writes:

About 200 hours aerobatics with smoke.


No skywriting?

What skywriting have YOU done?


None.

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Old April 16th 07, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Rip writes:

Please provide a reliable reference for that staement.


Every reference I can find mentions it.

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Old April 16th 07, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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We have. Rising air. It happens all the time over the plowed cornfields I
fly over. The plane doesn't also rise with the air because we are
maintaining out altitude above the ground.

mike
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If you can explain how this rule can be
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