Question to Mxmanic

"Mxsmanic" wrote...
Rip writes:

Please provide a reliable reference for that staement.

Every reference I can find mentions it.

Interestingly, MSFS will simulate this very effect in a C172 or a Baron in a
level 360 degree turn.

I wonder why the software would imitate something that cannot happen in real
life?

BDS

Tim writes:

Interestingly, MSFS will simulate this very effect in a C172 or a Baron in a
level 360 degree turn.

Will it? It doesn't simulate wake turbulence generally, why would it simulate
this?

I wonder why the software would imitate something that cannot happen in real
life?

So do I.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote...
Tim writes:

Interestingly, MSFS will simulate this very effect in a C172 or a Baron
in a
level 360 degree turn.

Will it? It doesn't simulate wake turbulence generally, why would it
simulate
this?

Yes, it will. Try it - if you're good enough you will see it happen. If
not, you have to practice your 360s.

I wonder why the software would imitate something that cannot happen in
real
life?

So do I.

An interesting dilemma - either MSFS is bogus or Mx is wrong... has hell
frozen over?

BDS

Tim writes:

An interesting dilemma - either MSFS is bogus or Mx is wrong... has hell
frozen over?

Many of the MSFS developers are pilots, for better or for worse.

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On Apr 17, 9:10 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tim writes:
An interesting dilemma - either MSFS is bogus or Mx is wrong... has hell
frozen over?

Many of the MSFS developers are pilots, for better or for worse.

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I believe that the explanation to why all pilots have experienced this
is that the vortices of a tight turn descend much more slowly than the
vortices generated in straight flight. All of the experimental data
that I can find on vortex descent rate has been done on planes in
straight flight (or in wind tunnels which is the same thing). All of
the reasons espoused in this thread for vortices to have any downward
velocity can be used to explain why numbers should change when the
wings aren't level.

The other factor that has been ignored is how fast a steep turn
executes. A 2g coordinated turn at 100 knots will complete in 19
seconds. (That's close to a 45 degree bank angle in most small
planes.) The formula to play with different loading factors and
speeds is:
rate of turn= omega = g*sqrt(n^2-1)/V

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Many of the MSFS developers are pilots, for better or for worse.

Name 3

On 04/17/07 11:40, Judah wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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Many of the MSFS developers are pilots, for better or for worse.

Name 3

It's funny. Anthony's always said that real pilots don't know what they
are talking about, yet he seems to feel the ones that worked on the MSFS
game do.

Mark Hansen wrote in news:132a5ke4urbdub5
@corp.supernews.com:

It's funny. Anthony's always said that real pilots don't know what they
are talking about, yet he seems to feel the ones that worked on the MSFS
game do.

He plays word games so that he can say he was right.

My daughter does the same thing, but she [usually] does it specifically to be
a smart-ass.

Oh, and she's 8.

Tim writes:

Yes, it will. Try it - if you're good enough you will see it happen. If
not, you have to practice your 360s.

It doesn't happen. I did try it, in perfect weather, at 2500' MSL over
Southwest Oregon Regional Airport, using the autopilot to make a perfect turn
with a constant altitude. No bump.

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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
Tim writes:

Yes, it will. Try it - if you're good enough you will see it happen. If
not, you have to practice your 360s.

It doesn't happen. I did try it, in perfect weather, at 2500' MSL over
Southwest Oregon Regional Airport, using the autopilot to make a perfect turn
with a constant altitude. No bump.

Why would anyone need an autopilot to do a 360 in CAVU?

You mean your chair didn't bump?

What a surprise.

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Jim Pennino

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