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Old April 17th 07, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:07:05 GMT, ktbr wrote in
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What has gone ballistic is [sic] entitlements.


Are you able to provide any examples?


I don't know if ktbr can but I'll be happy to. Look at the graph next to the
third paragraph.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021301091.html


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Old April 17th 07, 05:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:07:05 GMT, ktbr wrote in
:

What has gone ballistic is [sic] entitlements.


Are you able to provide any examples?


I don't know if ktbr can but I'll be happy to. Look at the graph next to
the third paragraph.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021301091.html

Is there an echo in here?


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Old April 17th 07, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt Barrow wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2007/02/13/AR2007021301091.html

Is there an echo in here?


Great minds and all that...


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Old April 17th 07, 05:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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What has gone ballistic is [sic] entitlements.


Are you able to provide any examples?



I don't know if ktbr can but I'll be happy to. Look at the graph next to
the third paragraph.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021301091.html


Is there an echo in here?


"Beef and pork".

That is, the part of the graph that is growing is the one labled "Social
Security and other payments to individuals". This lumps together a
number of disparate items which are then inappropriately labeled
"entitlements". Social security is something that one pays into, and
one receives benefits based on what one has paid in (and when). It is a
form of insurance, albeit one that has been administered by the
government. One may just as well throw tax refunds into the "payments
to individuals" pot too!

This is different from welfare, which is simply given. Without a
breakdown as to how much each program contributes to this big category,
it is unfair to say that "entitlements have gone ballistic" based on
this graph. The article shows a Social security as the dominant form of
"payments to individuals" Medicare and medicaid =combined= equal this,
and the category "payments to the poor" is about one sixth of the total.

I don't defend the present situation, but one must be careful in the
analysis.

Jose
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Old April 18th 07, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Jose wrote:

Social security is something that one pays into, and
one receives benefits based on what one has paid in (and when).


If only it was. ..

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Old April 20th 07, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:45:13 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:07:05 GMT, ktbr wrote in
:

What has gone ballistic is [sic] entitlements.


Are you able to provide any examples?


I don't know if ktbr can but I'll be happy to. Look at the graph next to the
third paragraph.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021301091.html


I hope you're not suggesting that Social Security payments should be
slashed to provide more money for the military.


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Old April 20th 07, 04:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

I hope you're not suggesting that Social Security payments should be
slashed to provide more money for the military.


I hope you're not suggesting that as the only means of funding the military.

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Old April 20th 07, 05:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:38:53 -0400, Bob Noel
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I hope you're not suggesting that as the only means of funding the military.


You didn't view the chart.
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Old April 20th 07, 04:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:45:13 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:07:05 GMT, ktbr wrote
in :

What has gone ballistic is [sic] entitlements.

Are you able to provide any examples?


I don't know if ktbr can but I'll be happy to. Look at the graph
next to the third paragraph.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2007/02/13/AR2007021301091.html


I hope you're not suggesting that Social Security payments should be
slashed to provide more money for the military.


I didn't suggest anything of the sort. Though, I wouldn't mind having my
share of the $199billion that the poor think they are entitled to back in my
bank account.


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Old April 20th 07, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:43:42 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:45:13 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
:

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:07:05 GMT, ktbr wrote
in :

What has gone ballistic is [sic] entitlements.

Are you able to provide any examples?

I don't know if ktbr can but I'll be happy to. Look at the graph
next to the third paragraph.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2007/02/13/AR2007021301091.html


I hope you're not suggesting that Social Security payments should be
slashed to provide more money for the military.


I didn't suggest anything of the sort. Though, I wouldn't mind having my
share of the $199billion that the poor think they are entitled to back in my
bank account.


Have you ever stopped to consider the horrendous effect failure to
provide the indigent and their dependent children with the health care
and other necessities of life might precipitate? Would you rather
wade through infectious derelicts as you walk to the office, read of
the sharp increase in crimes of desperation, not to mention suffering
the guilt of failing to act humanly toward your more unfortunate
fellows? I hope you don't think there won't be unpleasant
consequences if fundamental assistance weren't provided the poor. (In
the case of those who failed to comply with US immigration laws to
gain admittance to the US, the picture is considerably less clear.)
 




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