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Old April 18th 07, 09:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Hatunen
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Default Airline passengers subsidizing private aviation

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:10:00 GMT, "William Black"
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"Hatunen" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:28:26 GMT, "William Black"
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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William Black writes:


And Boeing and its hidden subsidies isn't?

No, it isn't. That's why it has been around for so long. What "hidden"
subsidies do you have in mind?

The ones the US pays on its huge military research contracts that are
really
a way of subsidising civil aircraft development.


Hmm. Boeing built the 747 "on spec". Which aircraft are you
thinking of?.


Try and look at something about a complaint by Airbus Industry to the WTO
about Boeing and the US government in 1992, revived in 2005.


You're going to ave to be more specific. What I found involves
government subsidies but not military subsidies.

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Old April 18th 07, 10:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
William Black[_1_]
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Default Airline passengers subsidizing private aviation


"Hatunen" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:10:00 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Hatunen" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:28:26 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
m...
William Black writes:


And Boeing and its hidden subsidies isn't?

No, it isn't. That's why it has been around for so long. What
"hidden"
subsidies do you have in mind?

The ones the US pays on its huge military research contracts that are
really
a way of subsidising civil aircraft development.

Hmm. Boeing built the 747 "on spec". Which aircraft are you
thinking of?.


Try and look at something about a complaint by Airbus Industry to the WTO
about Boeing and the US government in 1992, revived in 2005.


You're going to ave to be more specific. What I found involves
government subsidies but not military subsidies.


The Airbus case is that the US government gives Boeing large sums of money
for research into military projects and Boeing uses the technology developed
in its civilian products.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old April 18th 07, 09:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Hatunen
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Default Airline passengers subsidizing private aviation

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:05:46 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Hatunen" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:10:00 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Hatunen" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:28:26 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
om...
William Black writes:


And Boeing and its hidden subsidies isn't?

No, it isn't. That's why it has been around for so long. What
"hidden"
subsidies do you have in mind?

The ones the US pays on its huge military research contracts that are
really
a way of subsidising civil aircraft development.

Hmm. Boeing built the 747 "on spec". Which aircraft are you
thinking of?.

Try and look at something about a complaint by Airbus Industry to the WTO
about Boeing and the US government in 1992, revived in 2005.


You're going to ave to be more specific. What I found involves
government subsidies but not military subsidies.


The Airbus case is that the US government gives Boeing large sums of money
for research into military projects and Boeing uses the technology developed
in its civilian products.


Somehow that doesn't sound so awful, so long as it is legitimate
military research. Or are they suposed to not use info they get
from military research, should it be some sort of secret?



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Old April 18th 07, 10:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
William Black[_1_]
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Default Airline passengers subsidizing private aviation


"Hatunen" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:05:46 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Hatunen" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:10:00 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Hatunen" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:28:26 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
news:ts6a23pbm30j6lo4ociuqq996tk555uta2@4ax. com...
William Black writes:


And Boeing and its hidden subsidies isn't?

No, it isn't. That's why it has been around for so long. What
"hidden"
subsidies do you have in mind?

The ones the US pays on its huge military research contracts that are
really
a way of subsidising civil aircraft development.

Hmm. Boeing built the 747 "on spec". Which aircraft are you
thinking of?.

Try and look at something about a complaint by Airbus Industry to the
WTO
about Boeing and the US government in 1992, revived in 2005.

You're going to ave to be more specific. What I found involves
government subsidies but not military subsidies.


The Airbus case is that the US government gives Boeing large sums of money
for research into military projects and Boeing uses the technology
developed
in its civilian products.


Somehow that doesn't sound so awful, so long as it is legitimate
military research. Or are they suposed to not use info they get
from military research, should it be some sort of secret?


The research is funded as 'military' but is really civil.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




 




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