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Old April 18th 07, 07:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
William Black[_1_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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William Black writes:

Get a life.

It's a hidden subsidy.

Everybody knows it.


It's something that Europeans would desperately like to believe.

Airbus made a complaint and dropped it so as to make the US drop its
complaint.


Or because the U.S. found out about its own method of getting contracts
through bribes?

Making civil aircraft is an expensive business that has a lot more to do
with maintaining high technology industries and hanging onto high paid
jobs
than profits.


At Airbus, it's all politics, with aviation as a cover.

Stop trying to pretend Boeing are clean, they're just as crooked as
everyone else.


What makes you think that everyone is crooked? There are honest people in
the
world, even if they aren't often in charge of European governments or
corporations.


Oh dear.

In the past five years half the board of Boeing has had to resign because
they were crooks who got caught trying to cheat the US government.

A billion dollars of contracts was stripped from Boeing because they were
caught spying on Lockheed.

Now go and read

http://igeographer.lib.indstate.edu/pritchard.pdf

And get back to me...

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Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
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Old April 18th 07, 08:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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William Black writes:

A billion dollars of contracts was stripped from Boeing because they were
caught spying on Lockheed.


While some European governments spend nearly comparable amounts spying on the
competitors of their domestic manufacturers in the hope that providing the
latter with inside information will help business (but it usually doesn't).

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Old April 18th 07, 08:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
William Black[_1_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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William Black writes:

A billion dollars of contracts was stripped from Boeing because they were
caught spying on Lockheed.


While some European governments spend nearly comparable amounts spying on
the
competitors of their domestic manufacturers in the hope that providing the
latter with inside information will help business (but it usually
doesn't).


Not only is that not proven, it is used by the government of the USA as a
justification for spying on European companies and giving the information to
US companies.

Do you admit now that Boeing is dirty?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old April 18th 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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William Black writes:

Not only is that not proven ...


Interesting. I was speculating, and you immediately say that there is no
proof. Hmm.

... it is used by the government of the USA as a
justification for spying on European companies and giving the information to
US companies.


Do you object to the U.S. using the same methods as Europe? It's hard for the
honest guys to win if the other side is cheating.

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Old April 18th 07, 09:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
William Black[_1_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
William Black writes:

Not only is that not proven ...


Interesting. I was speculating, and you immediately say that there is no
proof. Hmm.

... it is used by the government of the USA as a
justification for spying on European companies and giving the information
to
US companies.


Do you object to the U.S. using the same methods as Europe? It's hard for
the
honest guys to win if the other side is cheating.


I object to the US government using a supposition to drive its policy.

You know, spying on people because someone may just be spying on them,
invading people because they think they may have nuclear weapons...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old April 18th 07, 10:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Hatunen
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:59:55 GMT, "William Black"
wrote:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
.. .
William Black writes:

Not only is that not proven ...


Interesting. I was speculating, and you immediately say that there is no
proof. Hmm.

... it is used by the government of the USA as a
justification for spying on European companies and giving the information
to
US companies.


Do you object to the U.S. using the same methods as Europe? It's hard for
the
honest guys to win if the other side is cheating.


I object to the US government using a supposition to drive its policy.

You know, spying on people because someone may just be spying on them,
invading people because they think they may have nuclear weapons...


The big problem was not that Bush invaded thinking Iraq had
nuclear weapons, the problem was that Irag didn't have nuclear
weapons and the President either did or should have known it.



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