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Larry Dighera wrote:
The chilling documentary film "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" examines the relationship between the media, corporate America, and government. In a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", ... SNIP And that is a BS number. http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html The Wealth Distribution In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2001, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 33.4% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 51%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 84%, leaving only 16% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth, the top 1% of households had an even greater sha 39.7%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2004). |
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:02:09 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : And that is a BS number. Control != Own |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:02:09 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : And that is a BS number. Control != Own So Larry, what is your definition of "Control" that can boost the number from 33.4% to 90%? |
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![]() "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message ... Larry Dighera wrote: And that is a BS number. Control != Own So Larry, what is your definition of "Control" that can boost the number from 33.4% to 90%? A friend of mine who is a Statistics instructor regularly dismantles figures such as these. The US economic system is too complex to say offhand "this percentage owns this percentage"; it depends on how you derive your data and how it is organized. By and large, though, corporations are run by people like Carly Fiorina and folks who get paid hundreds of millions of dollars despite destroying companies and costing hundreds or thousands of jobs, and the average working-class Joe Commercial Pilot, cop, truck driver, support technician, electrician, assembly line operator...the people who ACTUALLY MAKE THE CORPORATION RUN...make a pittance of what these people award themselves as hiring or firing bonuses. -c |
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On 2007-04-24 16:23:53 -0700, "gatt" said:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message ... Larry Dighera wrote: And that is a BS number. Control != Own So Larry, what is your definition of "Control" that can boost the number from 33.4% to 90%? A friend of mine who is a Statistics instructor regularly dismantles figures such as these. The US economic system is too complex to say offhand "this percentage owns this percentage"; it depends on how you derive your data and how it is organized. By and large, though, corporations are run by people like Carly Fiorina and folks who get paid hundreds of millions of dollars despite destroying companies and costing hundreds or thousands of jobs, and the average working-class Joe Commercial Pilot, cop, truck driver, support technician, electrician, assembly line operator...the people who ACTUALLY MAKE THE CORPORATION RUN...make a pittance of what these people award themselves as hiring or firing bonuses. -c Of course. If the facts don't agree with the original premise, declare the statistics to be meaningless and arbitrary. The fact is, 1% of Americans do not control 90% of the wealth unless you are a rabid conspiracy theorist. Then you just assume everything is controlled by the Illuminati or the Trilateral Commission or Bavarian Bankers or Halliburton or what-have-you. Since no one can prove you wrong, you must be right, eh? Of course, if you are going to do that you have to betray every principle that liberalism supposedly stands for. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007042422113016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... Of course. If the facts don't agree with the original premise, declare the statistics to be meaningless and arbitrary. The fact is, 1% of Americans do not control 90% of the wealth unless you are a rabid conspiracy theorist. The fact is that I control 100% of the wealth. If it isn't mine, it doesn't count. |
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![]() "Steve Foley" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message news:2007042422113016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... Of course. If the facts don't agree with the original premise, declare the statistics to be meaningless and arbitrary. The fact is, 1% of Americans do not control 90% of the wealth unless you are a rabid conspiracy theorist. The fact is that I control 100% of the wealth. I control the vertical, I control the horizontal.... |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007042422113016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... On 2007-04-24 16:23:53 -0700, "gatt" said: -c Of course. If the facts don't agree with the original premise, declare the statistics to be meaningless and arbitrary. The fact is, 1% of Americans do not control 90% of the wealth unless you are a rabid conspiracy theorist. Then you just assume everything is controlled by the Illuminati or the Trilateral Commission or Bavarian Bankers or Halliburton or what-have-you. Since no one can prove you wrong, you must be right, eh? Example: One CEO "controls" a $100 Billion corporation that has 100,000 shareholders. See how easy that is? Of course, that would take just a smidge of brainpower and one's "feelings" would get hurt. |
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On 2007-04-25 06:35:01 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
said: "C J Campbell" wrote in message news:2007042422113016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... On 2007-04-24 16:23:53 -0700, "gatt" said: -c Of course. If the facts don't agree with the original premise, declare the statistics to be meaningless and arbitrary. The fact is, 1% of Americans do not control 90% of the wealth unless you are a rabid conspiracy theorist. Then you just assume everything is controlled by the Illuminati or the Trilateral Commission or Bavarian Bankers or Halliburton or what-have-you. Since no one can prove you wrong, you must be right, eh? Example: One CEO "controls" a $100 Billion corporation that has 100,000 shareholders. See how easy that is? Of course, that would take just a smidge of brainpower and one's "feelings" would get hurt. The trouble with that is the assumption that the country's wealth is tied up in large corporations. It is not. And, as anyone who DOES work for a large corporation knows, the CEO is rarely in 'control.' Comrade, it may be useful to lie to the masses about the control that the globe-trotting capitalist dogs exert over their lives, but we must keep our eyes open and not be deceived by our own propaganda. Let the populist pols do that. The bourgeousie control the bulk of the wealth, but they must never know that or they will never join the people's revolution. Encourage them to believe they are fighting corporate tyranny. When they are ready, we will give them knives and they will cut their own throats. One word of warning about associating too closely with Larry Dighera. I am preparing to denounce the insufferable Trotskyite pig as a bourgeous reactionary. The man is a socialist, not a true believer. :-) -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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![]() "C J Campbell" wrote in message news:2007042422113016807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... So Larry, what is your definition of "Control" that can boost the number from 33.4% to 90%? A friend of mine who is a Statistics instructor regularly dismantles figures such as these. The US economic system is too complex to say offhand "this percentage owns this percentage"; it depends on how you derive your data and how it is organized. Of course. If the facts don't agree with the original premise, declare the statistics to be meaningless and arbitrary. Note: I'm not Larry. -c |
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