What if...

"john smith" wrote in message ...
:
: One of the things the POH does say, is that the fast way to get down is
: to extend the gear and full flaps.
: When you are taking advantage of the turbocharger to go higher, getting
: down from over 10,000 to lower altitudes while you're on fire becomes
: urgent.
: The fastest I have descended, intentionally, is 1300 fpm. That is going
: to require at least 8 minutes. When you're on fire, that's a LOOOONG
: time!
: Can I get 2000 fpm or more? I don't know, I haven't tried it.
: At 1300 fpm and the power pulled back, I was up into the yellow arc in
: smooth air.
: What is the airspeed at 2000 fpm? How long can you fly in the red arc
: and not exceed V-dive without breaking the airplane? Theoretically, in
: smooth air, forever.
: But you have to level out gradually to avoid overloading with G's and
: bleed off that airspeed to land. Thats going to add more time.



This is what the steep spiral is for...

Also, there is no such thing as 'the red arc', it is red line Vne, don't wanna exceed it...

On 4/25/2007 6:08:03 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:

What is the airspeed at 2000 fpm? How long can you fly in the red arc
: and not exceed V-dive without breaking the airplane? Theoretically, in
: smooth air, forever.

I have been able to get over 2000 fpm and without going into yellow or red in
my Bonanza V35 with gear down, RPMs back to around 2100, and MP back to 15
inches. The trick in the Bonanza is to slow it up first while level (RPM and
throttle back, drop gear), then begin the descent.

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Peter

Peter R. wrote:

On 4/25/2007 6:08:03 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:


What is the airspeed at 2000 fpm? How long can you fly in the red arc
: and not exceed V-dive without breaking the airplane? Theoretically, in
: smooth air, forever.


I have been able to get over 2000 fpm and without going into yellow or red in
my Bonanza V35 with gear down, RPMs back to around 2100, and MP back to 15
inches. The trick in the Bonanza is to slow it up first while level (RPM and
throttle back, drop gear), then begin the descent.

Me too. I can peg the VSI and never get near the yellow line in my S35.

"Peter R." wrote in message ...
: On 4/25/2007 6:08:03 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:
:
: What is the airspeed at 2000 fpm? How long can you fly in the red arc
: : and not exceed V-dive without breaking the airplane? Theoretically, in
: : smooth air, forever.
:
: I have been able to get over 2000 fpm and without going into yellow or red in
: my Bonanza V35 with gear down, RPMs back to around 2100, and MP back to 15
: inches. The trick in the Bonanza is to slow it up first while level (RPM and
: throttle back, drop gear), then begin the descent.
:
: --
: Peter

That is a bad quote, not what I said above...

On 4/26/2007 8:09:18 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:

That is a bad quote, not what I said above...

You are correct. Sorry about that. I normally do not make such mistakes.

In all honesty I believe I failed to catch the fact that it was a quote,
given that the colons you use are hard to see in my newsreader. I'll try to
pay better attention next time.


--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message ...
On 4/26/2007 8:09:18 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:

That is a bad quote, not what I said above...

You are correct. Sorry about that. I normally do not make such mistakes.

In all honesty I believe I failed to catch the fact that it was a quote,
given that the colons you use are hard to see in my newsreader. I'll try to
pay better attention next time.


--
Peter

That should be better, using the now. It does show up better...

On 4/27/2007 5:51:12 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:

That should be better, using the now. It does show up better...

Nice. Thanks for considering an alternative.

Another advantage of using the "" character is that many of the more modern
newsreaders will automatically color code the quoted text when it detects a
line that starts with it (some even provide user-configurable quoting
characters for color coding), as seen in the screenshot below:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1...7110254qa6.jpg

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Peter