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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:57:10 GMT, kontiki wrote in : They are only a burden (on taxpayers) because politicians have made it a policy to hand out money to everybody. Wouldn't you characterize streets awash in homeless retirees a burden on society? Many companies today allow there workers to opt out of health care, and receive the dollars saved, by furnishing some type of certification of insurance elsewhere. Usually a working spouse with family benefits. I see no reason why anyone that can supply adiquate investment information on their tax return, should not be allowed to receive a refund of all SS and FICA monies, or simply avoid the deduction to begin with. Yes, these investments would have to "insured or qualified" by the FDIC or some such entity, but it's very workable. There would be dozens, if not hundreds of investment opportunities tailored to suit with in weeks. But the problem is, the fed has let the SS system get well behind the curve. If they don't "tax us today", the system supposedly funded by today's receipents long ago, would colapse. So in reality, money invested by today's receipents long ago, has been spent by the fed, the people that were supposed to be insuring their furture. And the only way they can keep their promise, is to tax us today. |
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:18:11 -0500, "Maxwell"
wrote in : But the problem is, the fed has let the SS system get well behind the curve. If they don't "tax us today", the system supposedly funded by today's receipents long ago, would colapse. So in reality, money invested by today's receipents long ago, has been spent by the fed, the people that were supposed to be insuring their furture. The way I understand it, Congress has used the money generated by SSI payments to fund other federal spending. And now government is faced with the issue of a shortfall in funding SSI recipients as a result of the "baby-boom" bulge in the retirement aged population. |
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The way I understand it, Congress has used the money generated by SSI
payments to fund other federal spending. And now government is faced with the issue of a shortfall in funding SSI recipients as a result of the "baby-boom" bulge in the retirement aged population. Also, when SSI started, there were a huge number of wage earners who were being tapped to pay for the retirements of a small number of workers. This spread the burden around very thinly. The pyramid has inverted. Jose -- Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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![]() "Jose" wrote in message et... The way I understand it, Congress has used the money generated by SSI payments to fund other federal spending. And now government is faced with the issue of a shortfall in funding SSI recipients as a result of the "baby-boom" bulge in the retirement aged population. Also, when SSI started, there were a huge number of wage earners who were being tapped to pay for the retirements of a small number of workers. This spread the burden around very thinly. The pyramid has inverted. Jose Agreed. I think people living longer for a number of reasons has added to the list as well. My point is, the government TAKES our money to fund our retirement because we all realize far too many people cannot be trusted to fund their own retirement. But the government themselves have proven they can't be trusted with the money as either. That's why it ticks me that I can't opt out and do my own thing. We all know there are much better deals to be had. And many of us would manage our own fund much better than the fed has. |
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Larry Dighera wrote: The way I understand it, Congress has used the money generated by SSI payments to fund other federal spending. And now government is faced with the issue of a shortfall in funding SSI recipients as a result of the "baby-boom" bulge in the retirement aged population. That's not the only cause of the shortfall. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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