Twenty minutes in the queue awaiting the new and improved FSS

On 4/30/2007 11:08:44 PM, "Matt Barrow" wrote:

I have virtually ZERO confidence in weather forecasts. Anywhere.

I was discussing weather analyses, not weather forecasts.

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 4/30/2007 11:08:44 PM, "Matt Barrow" wrote:

I have virtually ZERO confidence in weather forecasts. Anywhere.

I was discussing weather analyses, not weather forecasts.

And your "local" boy provides what?, that the fer'einer couldn't?

On 5/1/2007 9:20:35 AM, "Matt Barrow" wrote:

And your "local" boy provides what?, that the fer'einer couldn't?

Provided local insight based on his twenty to thirty years of doing his job
in one of many unique "micro-climates" of being downwind of the US Great
Lakes, which is a lot more experience than I have reading current conditions
and prognostics.

Perhaps you are an educated and skilled meteorologist in addition to being a
successful real estate mogul and newsgroup star, but in my case I know I
would feel more confident talking to a briefer familiar with local Colorado
Rocky Mountain-induced weather more so than a briefer in (Florida, Ohio,
Maine, or anywhere else but there) who can only read the text from the
current and forecast conditions.




--
Peter

On Tue, 1 May 2007 09:39:18 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

I know I
would feel more confident talking to a briefer familiar with local Colorado
Rocky Mountain-induced weather more so than a briefer in (Florida, Ohio,
Maine, or anywhere else but there) who can only read the text from the
current and forecast conditions.

Did you mention that in your complaints to:

http://www.afss.com/feedback/
http://surveys.aopa.org/cgi-bin/qweb...cgi?idx=SP46SS

On 5/1/2007 11:08:18 AM, Larry Dighera wrote:

Did you mention that in your complaints to:

http://www.afss.com/feedback/
http://surveys.aopa.org/cgi-bin/qweb...cgi?idx=SP46SS

I did in the AOPA survey but I have yet to file a feedback with the AFSS link
you provided. Thanks for those, BTW.

--
Peter

On 5/1/2007 11:08:18 AM, Larry Dighera wrote:

Did you mention that in your complaints to:

http://www.afss.com/feedback/

Attempting to log into this link (which I have already created a user ID a
few months ago) resulted in this:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e23'
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Cursor operation conflict
C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\WWW.AFSS.COM\MEMBER\../include/logon_form.inc, line 54

Nice...

--
Peter

On Tue, 1 May 2007 15:04:50 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

On 5/1/2007 11:08:18 AM, Larry Dighera wrote:

Did you mention that in your complaints to:

http://www.afss.com/feedback/

Attempting to log into this link (which I have already created a user ID a
few months ago) resulted in this:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e23'
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Cursor operation conflict
C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\WWW.AFSS.COM\MEMBER\../include/logon_form.inc, line 54

Nice...

That's one way for LocMart to assert that there are no user
complaints.

I tried to find a link to contact the webmaster, but was unsuccessful,
however there are lots of folks to talk to he
http://www.afss.com/contact/?sa=esa

On Tue, 1 May 2007 15:04:50 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

On 5/1/2007 11:08:18 AM, Larry Dighera wrote:

Did you mention that in your complaints to:

http://www.afss.com/feedback/

Attempting to log into this link (which I have already created a user ID a
few months ago) resulted in this:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e23'
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Cursor operation conflict
C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\WWW.AFSS.COM\MEMBER\../include/logon_form.inc, line 54

Nice...

I don't know if this information is out of date, but it might help:

1999 NEW YORK AIFSS’S PILOT’S SURVEY:
http://www.faa.gov/ats/afss/newyork/PICSurvey.htm

http://www.faa.gov/ats/afss/newyork/default.htm
New York Automated International Flight Service Station
FROM THE AIR TRAFFIC MANAGER
I look forward to receiving your input on our services, both positive
and negative. Please feel free to contact me at any time, either by
e-mail or by telephone at (516) 471-7181.
Ronald X. Ruggeri, Air Traffic Manager

On Tue, 01 May 2007 15:08:18 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in :

On Tue, 1 May 2007 09:39:18 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

I know I
would feel more confident talking to a briefer familiar with local Colorado
Rocky Mountain-induced weather more so than a briefer in (Florida, Ohio,
Maine, or anywhere else but there) who can only read the text from the
current and forecast conditions.

Did you mention that in your complaints to:

http://www.afss.com/feedback/
http://surveys.aopa.org/cgi-bin/qweb...cgi?idx=SP46SS


There's more AFSS contact information he
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...d_martin_info/

Dan Courain: Director, Lockheed Martin FS21 Team:
?subject=Feedback/Comments

http://www.faa.gov/contact/
Flight Service Stations: Send comments or complaints about weather
briefings and other flight planning services provided to pilots
through the Flight Service Stations, to: .
http://www.faa.gov/contact_faa/?retu...5FHB4D8%2AL%0A

http://www.lmafsshr.com/

Federal Aviation Administration
1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322)

LockMart's AFSS Feedback system is back on-line:
http://afss.com/feedback/

Call me cynical, but intentionally frustrating pilots by making them
wait interminably on hold for an FSS briefing, thus driving many of
them to DUATS, could be good business for LockMart.

It will be interesting to see just how culpable LockMart will be if
pilots are violated as a result of AFSS ineptitude:

NEW FSS IN THE OL' ADIZ (WITH POTOMAC AIRFIELD'S DAVID WARTOFSKY)
(http://www.avweb.com/alm?podcast20070514&kw=AVwebAudio)
Last week, Lockheed Martin began final implementation of its new
flight services system in the Washington area, and it didn't go
exactly according to plan. There were dropped flight plans and a
lot of frustrated pilots who suddenly found themselves dealing
with briefers who didn't understand the procedures for flying in
the restricted airspace around the capital. David Wartofsky, who
owns Potomac Airfield near Washington, tells AVweb's Russ Niles
that it was interesting for a couple of days but operations are
returning to normal, at least what passes for normal in that
airspace.

Click here (http://www.avweb.com/podcast/files/2007-05-14.mp3) to
listen.



Oh yeah, and "the check's in the mail":

FAA'S BLAKEY PROMISES QUICK FIX FOR FSS
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195217)
"The top levels of both the FAA and Lockheed Martin are now
engaged and committed to fixing the significant problems pilots
are experiencing with the new flight service station (FSS)
system," AOPA said
(http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...70515afss.html) on
Tuesday. AOPA President Phil Boyer spent nearly an hour on the
phone with FAA Administrator Marion Blakey on Sunday, and another
hour with her and her deputy on Monday. "I have their pledge that
they will do whatever it takes to ensure pilots get the safety of
flight information that they need and deserve," he said. Problems
with the system worsened in recent weeks, as Lockheed Martin began
consolidating the old FAA flight service stations at the rate of
three a week. Computer updates were incomplete, and spring weather
brought an increase in flying. "I have great difficulty
understanding why it has taken so long for those FAA employees
responsible for the Lockheed Martin contract to address a safety
of flight issue," Boyer said. According to Lockheed Martin program
manager Dan Courain
(http://www.lmafsshr.com/msg20070510.asp), a series of software
updates that are scheduled for the next few weeks should resolve
the transition problems and "allow [workers] to focus on the
pilot's needs, rather than the system's performance."
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195217










On Wed, 02 May 2007 14:02:00 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in :

On Tue, 01 May 2007 15:08:18 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in :

On Tue, 1 May 2007 09:39:18 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

I know I
would feel more confident talking to a briefer familiar with local Colorado
Rocky Mountain-induced weather more so than a briefer in (Florida, Ohio,
Maine, or anywhere else but there) who can only read the text from the
current and forecast conditions.

Did you mention that in your complaints to:

http://www.afss.com/feedback/
http://surveys.aopa.org/cgi-bin/qweb...cgi?idx=SP46SS


There's more AFSS contact information he
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...d_martin_info/

Dan Courain: Director, Lockheed Martin FS21 Team:
?subject=Feedback/Comments

http://www.faa.gov/contact/
Flight Service Stations: Send comments or complaints about weather
briefings and other flight planning services provided to pilots
through the Flight Service Stations, to: .
http://www.faa.gov/contact_faa/?retu...5FHB4D8%2AL%0A

http://www.lmafsshr.com/

Federal Aviation Administration
1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322)