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"André, PE1PQX" wrote:
If look at the wikipedia site on Wally Schirra, I see 2 different space times: 295 hours and 15 minuts, and on the richt a time of 12 days, 7 hours and 12 minutes (295 hours and 12 minutes) a differance of 3 minutes... What is the right space time??? I found these figures in some old NASA publicity books: Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 24 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes. And these figures in Kenneth Gatland's "Space Technology": Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. --Bill Thompson |
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William R Thompson gebruikte zijn klavier om te schrijven :
"André, PE1PQX" wrote: If look at the wikipedia site on Wally Schirra, I see 2 different space times: 295 hours and 15 minuts, and on the richt a time of 12 days, 7 hours and 12 minutes (295 hours and 12 minutes) a differance of 3 minutes... What is the right space time??? I found these figures in some old NASA publicity books: Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 24 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes. And these figures in Kenneth Gatland's "Space Technology": Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. --Bill Thompson Than have to check NASA history information, probably there the correct info can be found... André |
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![]() "William R Thompson" wrote in message news ![]() "André, PE1PQX" wrote: If look at the wikipedia site on Wally Schirra, I see 2 different space times: 295 hours and 15 minuts, and on the richt a time of 12 days, 7 hours and 12 minutes (295 hours and 12 minutes) a differance of 3 minutes... What is the right space time??? I found these figures in some old NASA publicity books: Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 24 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes. And these figures in Kenneth Gatland's "Space Technology": Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. --Bill Thompson Is that taking relativistic time dilation into consideration? That's got to be good for a -second or -two! Also, I remember getting up very early to watch live TV coverage of the Mercury launches. By the time Schirra took his ride I was just 12y old and we just moved back to Fla. I wish I could claim to have seen the launch from Lakeland but I really don't remember. Tony P. |
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"muff528" wrote:
"William R Thompson" wrote: (about Wally Schirra's elapsed time in space) Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. Is that taking relativistic time dilation into consideration? That's got to be good for a -second or -two! At orbital speed (about 8 km/sec) time dilation doesn't even amount to one second over 295 hours. If I've crunched the number right, it's in the microsecond range. --Bill Thompson |
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William R Thompson wrote:
"muff528" wrote: "William R Thompson" wrote: (about Wally Schirra's elapsed time in space) Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. Is that taking relativistic time dilation into consideration? That's got to be good for a -second or -two! At orbital speed (about 8 km/sec) time dilation doesn't even amount to one second over 295 hours. If I've crunched the number right, it's in the microsecond range. --Bill Thompson If it's NASA, maybe they've mixed metric and SAE units ? -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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"Dave Kearton" wrote:
William R Thompson wrote: "muff528" wrote: "William R Thompson" wrote: (about Wally Schirra's elapsed time in space) Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. Is that taking relativistic time dilation into consideration? That's got to be good for a -second or -two! At orbital speed (about 8 km/sec) time dilation doesn't even amount to one second over 295 hours. If I've crunched the number right, it's in the microsecond range. If it's NASA, maybe they've mixed metric and SAE units ? No, although they did give the orbital speed in furlongs per fortnight. I made the time-dilation factor as about 0.999999999644 (square root of 1 minus beta-squared), with Schirra spending about 1062000 seconds in space at orbital speed and beta equal to 8 km/sec over the speed of light (close enough to 300,000 km/sec). Schirra would have lost about 400 microseconds. --Bill Thompson |
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William R Thompson wrote:
"Dave Kearton" wrote: William R Thompson wrote: "muff528" wrote: "William R Thompson" wrote: (about Wally Schirra's elapsed time in space) Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. Is that taking relativistic time dilation into consideration? That's got to be good for a -second or -two! At orbital speed (about 8 km/sec) time dilation doesn't even amount to one second over 295 hours. If I've crunched the number right, it's in the microsecond range. If it's NASA, maybe they've mixed metric and SAE units ? No, although they did give the orbital speed in furlongs per fortnight. I made the time-dilation factor as about 0.999999999644 (square root of 1 minus beta-squared), with Schirra spending about 1062000 seconds in space at orbital speed and beta equal to 8 km/sec over the speed of light (close enough to 300,000 km/sec). Schirra would have lost about 400 microseconds. --Bill Thompson African or European ? -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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![]() "Dave Kearton" wrote in message ... No, although they did give the orbital speed in furlongs per fortnight. I made the time-dilation factor as about 0.999999999644 (square root of 1 minus beta-squared), with Schirra spending about 1062000 seconds in space at orbital speed and beta equal to 8 km/sec over the speed of light (close enough to 300,000 km/sec). Schirra would have lost about 400 microseconds. --Bill Thompson African or European ? Oh Monty Python, I thought it was about time for another appearance........ Good one and well thought. Bruce R |
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"Dave Kearton" wrote:
William R Thompson wrote: I made the time-dilation factor as about 0.999999999644 (square root of 1 minus beta-squared), with Schirra spending about 1062000 seconds in space at orbital speed and beta equal to 8 km/sec over the speed of light (close enough to 300,000 km/sec). Schirra would have lost about 400 microseconds. African or European ? Before I can answer that, I'll have to determine whether or not all four hundred of them float or sink in water. Making that measurement for microseconds could take a little time. --Bill Thompson |
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![]() "William R Thompson" wrote in message ink.net... "Dave Kearton" wrote: William R Thompson wrote: "muff528" wrote: "William R Thompson" wrote: (about Wally Schirra's elapsed time in space) Sigma 7: 9 hours 13 minutes 11 seconds Gemini 6: 25 hours 51 minutes 43 seconds Apollo 7: 260 hours 9 minutes 3 seconds which adds up to 295 hours 13 minutes 57 seconds. Is that taking relativistic time dilation into consideration? That's got to be good for a -second or -two! At orbital speed (about 8 km/sec) time dilation doesn't even amount to one second over 295 hours. If I've crunched the number right, it's in the microsecond range. If it's NASA, maybe they've mixed metric and SAE units ? No, although they did give the orbital speed in furlongs per fortnight. I made the time-dilation factor as about 0.999999999644 (square root of 1 minus beta-squared), with Schirra spending about 1062000 seconds in space at orbital speed and beta equal to 8 km/sec over the speed of light (close enough to 300,000 km/sec). Schirra would have lost about 400 microseconds. --Bill Thompson From his point of view didn't *we* lose the ~400ms ? |
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