Are Planes taking off in Thunderstorms normal?

"William Black" wrote:

So you'll now produce some evidence of aircraft being knocked out of the
sky by thunderstorms.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souther...ays_Flight_242
It says heavy rain knocked that one down.


Yes; one finds that in thunderstorms.


How about this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_191



...or this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_75


....or this one?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAir_Flight_1016




There are many, many more, if you care to look.


--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote

There are many, many more, if you care to look.

All good links, but do your really think that ATC released him to fly
straight into a t-storm? I don't, but come on, this is all based on ONE
article, from the MEDIA !!!

The guy asked a loaded question. Did you stop beating your wife? Do you
take off in thunderstorms?

It is certainly not at all clear what the weather conditions were at the
time of THIS takeoff.

We all know that T-storms can take down a plane. Is this the REAL issue,
here?

I doubt it.
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Jim in NC

Morgans writes:

All good links, but do your really think that ATC released him to fly
straight into a t-storm?

The pilot is ultimately the boss. If his actions are not contrary to the
safety of other flights, ATC really has no reason not to release him. See
Jessica Dubroff's adventure for an example.

We all know that T-storms can take down a plane.

I dunno. Some people seem unwilling to believe that without "evidence."

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Morgans writes:

All good links, but do your really think that ATC released him to fly
straight into a t-storm?

The pilot is ultimately the boss. If his actions are not contrary to
the safety of other flights, ATC really has no reason not to release
him. See Jessica Dubroff's adventure for an example.

We all know that T-storms can take down a plane.

I dunno. Some people seem unwilling to believe that without
"evidence."

You're an idiot, wannabe terrorist boi.

Bertie

Morgans wrote
All good links, but do your really think that ATC released him to fly
straight into a t-storm? I don't,

Jim, it's about time that someone told you that Mxsmanic seems
to understand a hell-of-a-lot more about what really happens in
jet transport aircraft than you do. You are just looking the fool
in your attempts to rebut his posts.

I find his questions very well thought-out and his answers to
other's questions well researched.

BTW, ATC will gladly release an aircraft into any weather that
the pilot wishes provided that the airport has not been closed.

Bob Moore
ATP B-707 B-727 L-188
CFII
Naval Aviator, S-2F P-2V P-3B

Bob Moore wrote in
46.128:

Morgans wrote
All good links, but do your really think that ATC released him to fly
straight into a t-storm? I don't,

Jim, it's about time that someone told you that Mxsmanic seems
to understand a hell-of-a-lot more about what really happens in
jet transport aircraft than you do.

He understands nothing. He reads a lot of crap and regurgitates it, there's
a difference.


Bertie

"Bob Moore" wrote

Jim, it's about time that someone told you that Mxsmanic seems
to understand a hell-of-a-lot more about what really happens in
jet transport aircraft than you do. You are just looking the fool
in your attempts to rebut his posts.

You need to understand a few things.

One, I do not claim to be an authority on transport aviation, unlike MX.

Two, I do not try to rebut his posts, because it is an exercise in futility.
I was only letting a newbie know who was giving him an answer, that the
answer is most likely incorrect, and that the writer does not know any more
than what he has learned playing a game.

I find his questions very well thought-out and his answers to
other's questions well researched.

I can't find a single thing in that line that isaccurate or correct. Well
researched? What planet are you living on, presently? He lets others do
his research, instead of doing the first little bit himself, then criticises
the answer given, when he gets the right answer.

BTW, ATC will gladly release an aircraft into any weather that
the pilot wishes provided that the airport has not been closed.

But they will inform (or flight service will inform) the pilot of the
current weather conditions along the intended route.

Since you have so much faith in MX's knowledge, I'll let you have the honor
of riding with him on his first flight after getting his PPL. It sure will
not be me.

I hope you know that your credibility just dropped (with your support of
this individual) with a lot of people, I'm sure. It does not show very good
judgment, at the very least.
--
Jim in NC

On May 6, 7:42 pm, "Morgans" wrote:

One, I do not claim to be an authority on transport aviation, unlike MX.

No, you seem to have other problems. You wrote that Mx "has
clinically classifiable psychoses (several, probably)".... thus
claiming to be an expert in psychology.

I was only letting a newbie know who was giving him an answer, that the
answer is most likely incorrect, and that the writer does not know any more
than what he has learned playing a game.

A noble cause, except in this case Mx wrote: "Aircraft normally wait
for thunderstorms to pass before taking off. No aircraft is safe in a
thunderstorm. " What part of that was "most likely incorrect" and
called for your dire warning? If you're going to bash him, at least
BE CORRECT.

Kev

"Kev" wrote in message
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On May 6, 7:42 pm, "Morgans" wrote:

One, I do not claim to be an authority on transport aviation, unlike MX.

No, you seem to have other problems. You wrote that Mx "has
clinically classifiable psychoses (several, probably)".... thus
claiming to be an expert in psychology.

I was only letting a newbie know who was giving him an answer, that the
answer is most likely incorrect, and that the writer does not know any
more
than what he has learned playing a game.

A noble cause, except in this case Mx wrote: "Aircraft normally wait
for thunderstorms to pass before taking off. No aircraft is safe in a
thunderstorm. " What part of that was "most likely incorrect" and
called for your dire warning? If you're going to bash him, at least
BE CORRECT.


First of all the statement is not completley correct.

Second, MX has a well proven track record of being " most likely incorrect".

Maxwell writes:

First of all the statement is not completley correct.

Which part of the statement is incorrect, and why is the incorrect portion (if
any) important if the correct portion is not?

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