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Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: If one has never had an English class, their English spelling and grammar are not likely to be too great no matter how intelligent they are. Actually, intelligent people will become fluent and will make very few mistakes even without any formal instruction. You're an idiot. Bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: If one has never had an English class, their English spelling and grammar are not likely to be too great no matter how intelligent they are. Actually, intelligent people will become fluent and will make very few mistakes even without any formal instruction. I see you've had little experience with foreign born technical people. If they are young enough, their English spelling and grammar may become "fluent", but not likely withoug formal instruction and very unlikely if their native language is very different from English as in Chinese or Farsi. Their conversational English will be OK, but their written English will be full of strange grammatical constructions and word use. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... writes: I see you've had little experience with foreign born technical people. I teach them English, so I have years of experience with them. If they are young enough, their English spelling and grammar may become "fluent", but not likely withoug formal instruction and very unlikely if their native language is very different from English as in Chinese or Farsi. They need not be young, and I know people who have become completely bilingual in adulthood. It's mostly a matter of motivation, and practice. Their conversational English will be OK, but their written English will be full of strange grammatical constructions and word use. Not if they are smart and motivated. Why do they need to be smart, motivated, taught and invest in a good bit of practice? Only yesterday you were insisting good English and spelling was a simple matter of intelligence. |
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Why do they need to be smart, motivated, taught and invest in a good bit of practice? Motivation is the most important, and they need to be of at least average intelligence. Smart people make more progress with less effort and therefore require less motivation. Just about everyone needs some amount of practice. Being taught accelerates learning but is not essential. Only yesterday you were insisting good English and spelling was a simple matter of intelligence. Language fluency and intelligence are closely correlated. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... snip -. all Clearly a attempt to spin off topic. |
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Maxwell wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... snip -. all Clearly a attempt to spin off topic. plonk - clearly clueless |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Maxwell writes: Why do they need to be smart, motivated, taught and invest in a good bit of practice? Motivation is the most important, and they need to be of at least average intelligence. Smart people make more progress with less effort and therefore require less motivation. Just about everyone needs some amount of practice. Being taught accelerates learning but is not essential. Only yesterday you were insisting good English and spelling was a simple matter of intelligence. Language fluency and intelligence are closely correlated. s displatyed amply by your dismal aviation-speak. Bertie |
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