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I see you've had little experience with foreign born technical
people.

I teach them English, so I have years of experience with them.

If they are young enough, their English spelling and grammar may
become "fluent", but not likely withoug formal instruction and
very unlikely if their native language is very different from
English as in Chinese or Farsi.

They need not be young, and I know people who have become completely bilingual
in adulthood. It's mostly a matter of motivation, and practice.

Their conversational English will be OK, but their written English
will be full of strange grammatical constructions and word use.

Not if they are smart and motivated.

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writes:

I see you've had little experience with foreign born technical
people.

I teach them English, so I have years of experience with them.

If they are young enough, their English spelling and grammar may
become "fluent", but not likely withoug formal instruction and
very unlikely if their native language is very different from
English as in Chinese or Farsi.

They need not be young, and I know people who have become completely
bilingual
in adulthood. It's mostly a matter of motivation, and practice.

Their conversational English will be OK, but their written English
will be full of strange grammatical constructions and word use.

Not if they are smart and motivated.


Why do they need to be smart, motivated, taught and invest in a good bit of
practice?

Only yesterday you were insisting good English and spelling was a simple
matter of intelligence.

Maxwell writes:

Why do they need to be smart, motivated, taught and invest in a good bit of
practice?

Motivation is the most important, and they need to be of at least average
intelligence. Smart people make more progress with less effort and therefore
require less motivation. Just about everyone needs some amount of practice.
Being taught accelerates learning but is not essential.

Only yesterday you were insisting good English and spelling was a simple
matter of intelligence.

Language fluency and intelligence are closely correlated.

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Clearly a attempt to spin off topic.

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Clearly a attempt to spin off topic.


plonk - clearly clueless

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Maxwell writes:

Why do they need to be smart, motivated, taught and invest in a good
bit of practice?

Motivation is the most important, and they need to be of at least
average intelligence. Smart people make more progress with less
effort and therefore require less motivation. Just about everyone
needs some amount of practice. Being taught accelerates learning but
is not essential.

Only yesterday you were insisting good English and spelling was a
simple matter of intelligence.

Language fluency and intelligence are closely correlated.

s displatyed amply by your dismal aviation-speak.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

I see you've had little experience with foreign born technical
people.

I teach them English, so I have years of experience with them.

If they are young enough, their English spelling and grammar may
become "fluent", but not likely withoug formal instruction and
very unlikely if their native language is very different from
English as in Chinese or Farsi.

They need not be young, and I know people who have become completely bilingual
in adulthood. It's mostly a matter of motivation, and practice.

Being bilingual is not the same as being fluent.

I've met cab drivers that can speak 3 to 5 languages but were fluent
in maybe one.

Why would they need motivation and practice when you said all it
takes is intelligence?

Their conversational English will be OK, but their written English
will be full of strange grammatical constructions and word use.

Not if they are smart and motivated.

Babbling nonsense.

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Being bilingual is not the same as being fluent.

"Completely bilingual" is.

Why would they need motivation and practice when you said all it
takes is intelligence?

Nobody learns anything without motivation. Even smart people have a reason to
learn, otherwise they tend not to pay attention.

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Being bilingual is not the same as being fluent.

"Completely bilingual" is.

Why would they need motivation and practice when you said all it
takes is intelligence?

Nobody learns anything without motivation. Even smart people have a reason to
learn, otherwise they tend not to pay attention.

Here we go with the semantic game playing.

Responding to you really is a waste of time.

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Here we go with the semantic game playing.

There's no shame in admitting that one doesn't understand.

Responding to you really is a waste of time.

If that were true, you wouldn't be doing it. You hope to make me look stupid
at some point, but it hasn't worked so far, largely because I'm not stupid.

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