Something wrong here, Top Gun greatest movie for EAA?

Thank YOU for your comments and the listing of all the movies nominated,
of course the later movies are still fresh in peoples minds-9 ('CEPT us
old fogeys w/alzheimers) I feel certain that most of this groups members
appreciate your toiling with the figures, regardless of the outcome. THANKS



wrote:
I ran this poll for EAA and am very interested in this thread... would
like to assure everyone that the voting was not rigged! Top Gun did
genuinely receive the most votes, although it was quite a close-run
thing with Twelve o' Clock High.

For your interest, I will paste below the full list of movies that
were nominated by EAA members a few months ago in an open nomination
period, with the number representing how many nominations were
received by each movie. (The top 10 on this list are the ones that
were ultimately voted on in the main poll which received 10,270
votes).

As you can see there is a wide variety of interest, and some great
movies were nominated. Perhaps this long list is a better indication
of the breadth and quality of interest among EAA's members. My
personal favourite is the excellent Czech film "Dark Blue World" which
is thoroughly recommended... there can be no more perfect combination
of British beauty and elegance than Tara Fitzgerald and a whole bunch
of Spitfires.

I have received a few grumbles about Top Gun winning the poll, but
have been reminding everyone that (a) democracy must be respected, and
(b) there are 6 other nights in the week that we'll be showing movies
at the Fly-In Theater during AirVenture 2007. The whole process has
given us some great ideas. The full program will be unveiled in a
couple of weeks, but I think some of the contributors to this thread
will be happy. We have some awesome presenters lined-up too.

We had very good feedback to the Fly-In Theater last year, look
forward to seeing some of you there in July!

Adam Smith
Museum Director
EAA


Great Waldo Pepper, The 61
Twelve O'Clock High 52
Top Gun 44
Spirit of St. Louis 39
Battle of Britain 36
Those Mag Men in Their Flying Mach 31
Blue Max 28
High and the Mighty, The 26
Flight of the Phoenix 23
Memphis Belle (1990) 24
Right Stuff, The 22
Flyboys 19
Always 18
Strategic Air Command 17
Apollo 13 16
Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo 13
Airplane! 12
Bridges at Toko-Ri 12
Dawn Patrol 11
Hell's Angels 11
Tora! Tora! Tora! 11
Rocketeer, The 9
Air America 8
Dam Busters, The 8
Midway 8
High Road to China 7
Wings (1927) 7
Cloud Dancer 7
633 Squadron 6
Island in the Sky 6
One Six Right 6
Aviator, The (2004) (H. Hughes) 5
Best Years of Our Lives 5
Flying Tigers 5
God is My Co-Pilot 5
One Six Left 5
Pearl Harbor 5
Piece of Cake - BBC 5
Tuskegee Airmen 5
Airport 4
Aviator, The (1985) (plane crash) 4
Bat 21 4
Dr. Strangelove 4
Fate is the Hunter 4
Fighter Pilot - IMAX 4
Flight of the Intruder 4
Memphis Belle (1944) 6
A Guy Named Joe 3
Captains of the Clouds 3
Dark Blue World 3
Empire of the Sun 3
Final Countdown 3
Firefox (1982) 3
Fly Away Home 3
The Hunters 3
Iron Eagle 3
Midway (1976) 3
Reach for the Sky 3
Breaking the Sound Barrier 2
Flyers - IMAX 2
Flying Leathernecks 2
Men with Wings 2
War Lover, The 2
Wings of Eagles 2
Toward the Unknown 2
2001Space Odyssey 1
A Bridge Too Far 1
A Gathering of Eagles 1
Airplane 2 1
Aviator, The (no date) 1
Battle Hymn 1
Bush Pilot 1
Capricorn One 1
China Clipper 1
Christopher Strong 1
Command Decision 1
Con Air 1
Cutaway 1
Dive Bomber 1
Eagles Nest 1
Failsafe 1
Fandango 1
Fighter Squadron 1
Firebirds 1
Flight from Ashiya 1
Freefall: Flight 174 1
Gods Must Be Crazy 2, The 1
Great Santini, The 1
Gypsy Moths 1
Hail Columbia 1
Hannover Street 1
It's a Mad Mad Mad World 1
Mosquito Squadron 1
Mother Lode 1
Murphy's War 1
Only Angels Have Wings 1
Peter Pan 1
Planes, Trains and Automobiles 1
Poncha Barnes 1
Porco Rosso 1
Pushing Tin 1
Radio Flyer 1
Six Days Seven Nights 1
Sky is the Limit, THe (made for tv) 1
Skydancer 1
Skyward (made for tv) 1
Space Cowboys 1
Spin (2003) 1
Spitfire 1
Star Wars 1
Tailspin Tommy Tompkins 1
Ten Seconds That Shook the World 1
Test Pilot 1
Threshold - Blue Angels 1
Thunderbolt Squadron 1
War 1
Wild Blue Yonder 1
Young Eagle 1
Aunt Bea Learns to Fly - Andy Griffith 1
Baa Baa Black Sheep -tv 1
Sky King - tv 1
12 O'Clock High - tv 1

Heh,

Hell's Angels was Ben Lyon, James Hall, & Jean Harlow. Excellent
special effects for 1927-30, even if the Zepplin was fake.

I still can't believe that you've missed one of the greatest, most
ground-breaking aviation movies of all time:

WINGS!

Watch Star Wars... watch Midway, watch Hell's Angels for that
matter... they all draw from the dogfight scenes in Wings. Of course
it doesn't have sound, but it does have Clara Bow!

In 10 Seconds That Changed the World on the History Channel (right?)
the Wright Flyer used in the action sequences was built by John
Reynolds. Both of us exhibited at a special event for Hartsfield-
Jackson Airport in Atlanta on 12/17/2003. John and I traded a little
"cradle-time" and I have to say that the '03 scares the hell out of
me. Forward visibility with the canards pitched is ZERO. And then
there's the proximity of your right thigh to the engine, and your feet
to the props.

Harry "HrgfgBull****gghgfh" Frey

On May 10, 1:00 am, Jerry Wass wrote:
Thank YOU for your comments and the listing of all the movies nominated,
of course the later movies are still fresh in peoples minds-9 ('CEPT us
old fogeys w/alzheimers) I feel certain that most of this groups members
appreciate your toiling with the figures, regardless of the outcome. THANKS

wrote:
I ran this poll for EAA and am very interested in this thread... would
like to assure everyone that the voting was not rigged! Top Gun did
genuinely receive the most votes, although it was quite a close-run
thing with Twelve o' Clock High.

... (The top 10 on this list are the ones that
were ultimately voted on in the main poll which received 10,270
votes).


I assume from the description that the last participants
in the final vote had ten choices and that _Top Gun_
received a plurality (less than 50%) of the votes. Sort
of like how Arnold Shwartzenegger was elected Gropenator
of California.

If so, aside from what Mr Wass noted, there is another effect
in play here, which is a 'dilution' effect. Had the voting been
single elimination, in which the movie receiving the fewest
votes had been eliminated followed by another round of
voting, and THAT process continued until one movie received
a majority, the result might have been different.

Of course multiple runoff voting is much more logistically difficult,
even if more accurate.

IIUC, there is plan so show several of these at Oshkosh. It
might be interesting to poll those viewers viewers afterwards.

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FF