PSA: Don't be rude on the radio

On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:30:58 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:

With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When at a high AOA at Vx? G

A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:30:58 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:

With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When at a high AOA at Vx? G

A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

I didn't write this.
Dudley Henriques

On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:06:28 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:30:58 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:

With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When at a high AOA at Vx? G

A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

I didn't write this.
Dudley Henriques


I know! Buttman did.

Sorry for screwing up the quote.

Barry

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:06:28 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:30:58 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:

With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When at a high AOA at Vx? G

A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

I didn't write this.
Dudley Henriques


I know! Buttman did.

Sorry for screwing up the quote.

Barry

No sweat, but this guy is the LAST person on earth I want to be attributed
to as having quoted :-))))
Thanks for the correction Barry. Appreciate it.
Dudley Henriques

On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:19:03 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:

No sweat, but this guy is the LAST person on earth I want to be attributed
to as having quoted :-))))

On the subject...

I've practiced this at a safe altitude, similar to a departure stall.

In departure configuration:
1.) Slow to rotation speed
2.) Apply full power
3.) While climbing @ Vx (full power + proper AOA to create a Vx
airspeed), pull the throttle
4.) Recover

Considering the swift and positive actions that need to happen (and I
know it's coming!), I imagine that one of his students will kill both
of them someday, if he is in fact doing this @ 50 feet.

Not to mention, at a safe altitude I'm not at all worried about ground
track, as I would be at 50 feet.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:19:03 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:

No sweat, but this guy is the LAST person on earth I want to be attributed
to as having quoted :-))))

On the subject...

I've practiced this at a safe altitude, similar to a departure stall.

In departure configuration:
1.) Slow to rotation speed
2.) Apply full power
3.) While climbing @ Vx (full power + proper AOA to create a Vx
airspeed), pull the throttle
4.) Recover

Considering the swift and positive actions that need to happen (and I
know it's coming!), I imagine that one of his students will kill both
of them someday, if he is in fact doing this @ 50 feet.

Not to mention, at a safe altitude I'm not at all worried about ground
track, as I would be at 50 feet.

He might not even be an instructor, but if he is, after posting through
these "exchanges" he's had with myself and others dealing with his "CFI
philosophy", I'd like to think that all the gruff dialog aside, he's learned
something even though he doesn't admit it.
Actually, I learned a long time ago in the aviation business that it's not
admitting you learned something that matters, it's the LEARNING that
matters.
Perhaps something has been gained......but who knows really. It's Usenet
after all :-))
Dudley Henriques

Only for a few dozen milliseconds and then you'd never have to worry about
feeling hurt ever again.

Jim



"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:30:58 -0400, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:

With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When at a high AOA at Vx? G

At night...in IMC....when you have a head cold...


A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

Silly person.

B A R R Y wrote:

With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When at a high AOA at Vx? G

A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

Case in point (at my home field a couple of weeks ago):
http://www.wlwt.com/newsarchive/13219000/detail.html

Although there is no official cause yet, it seems apparent that they
stalled at about 50 feet above the runway. Witnesses reported hearing
the power increase right before the plane crashed, so in this case,
having power didn't prevent the accident, but if they had no power, they
probably would all be dead.


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