PSA: Don't be rude on the radio

Matt Whiting wrote:
buttman wrote:

You admit that a practice engine failure on takeoff is perfectly safe
when done by closing the throttle. The only difference between pulling
the throttle instead of the gas valve means you have power if you need
it. With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When the maintenance truck drives onto the runway ahead of you by
mistake. When the (deer, moose, etc.) runs onto the runway ahead of
you. I can probably think of others, but these two have happened to me
personally.

I think these situations have happened to many people. The airports I
fly out of have a lot of deer (and groundhogs) that like to play on the
runway. They also have other airplanes and from time to time someone
who isn't paying attention does something stupid. I'm not trying to win
the "stupid act of the day" award, so I think I'll stick to pulling the
throttle instead of the mixture (it's too hard to reach the fuel shutoff
from the right seat of a Piper).

Regardless, I'll be taking my CFI checkride in a couple of weeks. I
don't think I'll mention that procedure. I want to actually pass the
checkride.


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B A R R Y wrote:

With a wide and long runway 50 feet below you, what would you need
the power for?

When at a high AOA at Vx? G

A stall @ 50 feet would really, really hurt.

Case in point (at my home field a couple of weeks ago):
http://www.wlwt.com/newsarchive/13219000/detail.html

Although there is no official cause yet, it seems apparent that they
stalled at about 50 feet above the runway. Witnesses reported hearing
the power increase right before the plane crashed, so in this case,
having power didn't prevent the accident, but if they had no power, they
probably would all be dead.


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On May 14, 6:46 am, "Allen" wrote:

Your saying so does not make it true.


No, but the Pilot/Controller Glossary saying so DOES make it true.

"buttman" wrote in message
oups.com...

Actually, what it means is that I don't believe you are a CFI at all, or
if
you are, a very bad one, and that if you and I tangle again, it will be
on
the student newsgroup where I have an active interest in flight safety.

Dudley Henriques

No, it means you ran out of straw man arguments so you're pathetically
taking your ball and going home.

You're not winning much in terms of credibility here.


-=c

"buttman" wrote in message
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A big CB has been sitting right over our heads for a few
hours now and I've been bored to tears waiting for it to blow over.
It's either post to the Butthead or eat the stuff raw.
Dudley Henriques

Yeah, me too. I'm getting ready for a party at my place in a few
hours. Right now I'm just sitting here on a floaty in my pool,
drinking some Hennessy, watching some topless chicks play water
volleyball.

Dude, seriously. You're not winning points here, just making yourself look
less-than-professional.

-c

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
On May 14, 6:46 am, "Allen" wrote:
Your saying so does not make it true.


No, but the Pilot/Controller Glossary saying so DOES make it true.



The P/GC is not very precise and thus absolute truth is elusive in this
case.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...

The P/GC is not very precise and thus absolute truth is elusive in this
case.


The P/CG is exactly correct in this case.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
The P/GC is not very precise and thus absolute truth is elusive in this
case.


The P/CG is exactly correct in this case.



Hardly. Nobody with half a brain would consider me to be "on final" for
an airport that is 100 miles distant when I'm still climbing out from
the departure airport.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...

Hardly. Nobody with half a brain would consider me to be "on final" for
an airport that is 100 miles distant when I'm still climbing out from the
departure airport.


Would you self announce to aircraft at your destination airport that you
were on final when 100 miles distant?

On 2007-05-11, buttman wrote:
I give the Cirrus guy total benefit of the doubt.

Not particularly directed against this Cirrus pilot (because I don't
know the facts), but generally directed at people with fast singles who
feel the need to hurtle around the circuit, scattering Cessna 150s in
their wake. (Often to be found doing a straight-in at 120 knots).

Please don't do it. If the pattern is busy, slow down - you can do it -
and fit in. I've got a fair few hours in an S-35 Bonanza. I found it
flew perfectly well at 80 knots with the first stage (of the highly
effective flaps) extended. It was more neighbourly (the engine throttled
back and much quieter), and it didn't make student pilots feel the need
to rush their downwind. There was just no need to go hurtling on
downwind at 120 knots like far too many people in this kind of aircraft
seem to prefer.

Similarly, there is no need to shove the prop control to fine pitch on
downwind leading to that loud rrrrrRRRRRRRR! sound that bothers the
airport neighbours so much. Leave the prop control alone until short
final when the RPMs probably won't change at all when you push it
forwards.

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