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Old May 16th 07, 06:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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On 5/16/2007 11:48:02 AM, Larry Dighera wrote:

10:49 Bonanza N1835L 4 mi ... 6,000' we'll be entering L DW
for ...6


Is this correct, Larry? The pilot stated he was at 6,000 feet and only four
miles from the airport, which has a traffic pattern altitude of approximately
1,800 feet?

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Old May 16th 07, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:14:05 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

On 5/16/2007 11:48:02 AM, Larry Dighera wrote:

10:49 Bonanza N1835L 4 mi ... 6,000' we'll be entering L DW
for ...6


Is this correct, Larry? The pilot stated he was at 6,000 feet and only four
miles from the airport, which has a traffic pattern altitude of approximately
1,800 feet?




I found that datum troubling also. The Bonanza would have been
descending rather rapidly to arrive at the pattern entry point at
1,800'. Because the Bonanza reported he was north of the field and
would make a left down wind entry to runway six, he may have been in a
slight right bank at that point obscuring his view of the Cessna out
the side window.

The Cessna pilots transmission is more difficult for me to decipher,
but if he flew a left crosswind after departing runway six, he could
have also been in a bank to the right or left depending on whether he
was departing the pattern on the left 45 or remaining in the pattern.
If the later, his view

Listen to the recording, and see if you agree with what I heard:
http://www.sarangan.org/aviation/sca...2007051115.mp3 Where I
included ellipsis (...) in the Broadcast column, it is meant to
indicate that some of the transmission was unintelligible to me.
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Old May 17th 07, 02:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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Default Ohio midair crash kills 3

On May 16, 2:06 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:14:05 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in :

On 5/16/2007 11:48:02 AM, Larry Dighera wrote:


10:49 Bonanza N1835L 4 mi ... 6,000' we'll be entering L DW
for ...6


Is this correct, Larry? The pilot stated he was at 6,000 feet and only four
miles from the airport, which has a traffic pattern altitude of approximately
1,800 feet?


I found that datum troubling also. The Bonanza would have been
descending rather rapidly to arrive at the pattern entry point at
1,800'. Because the Bonanza reported he was north of the field and
would make a left down wind entry to runway six, he may have been in a
slight right bank at that point obscuring his view of the Cessna out
the side window.

The Cessna pilots transmission is more difficult for me to decipher,
but if he flew a left crosswind after departing runway six, he could
have also been in a bank to the right or left depending on whether he
was departing the pattern on the left 45 or remaining in the pattern.
If the later, his view

Listen to the recording, and see if you agree with what I heard:http://www.sarangan.org/aviation/sca...2007051115.mp3 Where I
included ellipsis (...) in the Broadcast column, it is meant to
indicate that some of the transmission was unintelligible to me.


I also found that the clock on my computer was approx 9mins 30 seconds
behind the actual time. Also, the transmissions from the Blue Ash
traffic pattern would have been difficult to receive from my rooftop
antenna. I am about 20 NM to the north of Blue Ash and only 1.5NM
south of MGY airport, so any transmissions from MGY would have easily
overridden transmissions from Blue Ash.




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Old May 21st 07, 11:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2007-05-17, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
I also found that the clock on my computer was approx 9mins 30 seconds
behind the actual time.


See 'man ntpd' and /etc/ntp.conf - very useful for keeping the
dreadfully inaccurate clock on a server in check.

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