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Thanks for the transcription of the audio file. I should also add that
my computer's clock was about 9 minutes 30 second behind the official time, so all the time stamps must be advanced by approx 10 minutes to be correct. On May 16, 11:48 am, Larry Dighera wrote: On 15 May 2007 20:08:50 -0700, Andrew Sarangan wrote in .com: I live not too far from the accident scene, and I have a scanner that records all CTAF communications in the vicinity and uploads to my website. I have not searched the audio archives carefully, but perhaps one of you might want to take a look and find if anything relevant to this crash shows up. Here is the link: http://www.sarangan.org/aviation/scan_audio/ Yours may be the sole record of these transmissions. Thank you for making them available. From the FAA preliminary information (below): Date: 05/11/2007 Time: 1903 UTC Time: 15:03 Local (UTC -4:00) N6614D, A CESSNA 172 N1835L, A BEECH V35B Cincinnati-Blue Ash Airport KISZ Elevation: 856 ft. Airport Information:http://www.airnav.com/airport/KISZ Chart:http://skyvector.com/#21-106-3-2057-1518 Here's what I found on the tapes (probably the last words of the MAC pilots): Audio File: May 11, 2007; 14-15; METAR (KMGY) 35009KT 310V020 10SM CLR 28/10 Position In File Aircraft Broadcast ------------------------------------------------------------ 10:17 Bonanza N1835L 5 mi N, will be entering L DW Rny6 FS 10:25 Cessna N6614D Just departed rny6 ... departing rnwy 20 clmbg thru 2,100...Will be looking for the Bonanza on... 10:49 Bonanza N1835L 4 mi ... 6,000' we'll be entering L DW for ...6 Audio File: May 11, 2007; 15-16; METAR (KMGY) 02008KT 10SM CLR 28/12 Position In File Aircraft Broadcast ------------------------------------------------------------ ... 02:43 Helo 6CS is Sky5 about 3 to the S @ 2,00 mid-field xing NB 02:51 Sky5 03:00 Sheriff 1,400 aprch frm W ... 03:50 Sky5 ...275 @ 2,000 in orbit 04:26 Sheriff? ... mi NE of Blue Ash 06:31 Sky5 Sky5 helo & Sheriff helo orbiting about 2 mi NE @ 1,500 to 2,000 06:42 Sky5 You call'n Blue Ash or 229 Sheriff? 06:45 Sheriff Blue Ash 06:46 Sky5 Ok, we're up with ya. 06:48 Sheriff ...they've already called for CFR ... ... about 10 or 15 min out...however long it takes for them to get goin' 06:57 Sky5 Gotcha. Copy 10 min. We'll stay 2 or abv 2,000 stay out of your way. 07:11 Sky5 Sky5 helo & Sheriff helo orbiting abt 2 2-1/2 NE of Blue Ash just outside of 275blue So it appears that the Bonanza was inbound from the north at 6,000' (5,144' AGL) for left downwind entry to runway six, while the Cessna had just departed runway six and was at 2,100' (1,244' AGL) at the time of his last transmission. It would seem that both aircraft would have had their view of the other obscured by their low/high wing configurations. Tragic. ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...eliminary_data... ************************************************** ******************************* ** Report created 5/16/2007 Record 3 ** ************************************************** ******************************* IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 1835L Make/Model: BE36 Description: 36 Bonanza Date: 05/11/2007 Time: 1903 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: Y Missing: Damage: Destroyed LOCATION City: CINCINNATI State: OH Country: US DESCRIPTION N6614D, A CESSNA 172 AIRCRAFT AND N1835L, A BEECH V35B AIRCRAFT COLLIDED IN MIDAIR 2.5 MILES FROM THE AIRPORT, THERE WERE TWO PERSONS ON BOARD N6614D, AND ONE PERSON ON BOARD N1835L, ALL THREE PERSONS ON BOARD THE TWO AIRCRAFT WERE FATALLY INJURED, CINCINNATTI, OH INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1 # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: 1852Z 35009KT 10SM BKN130 BKN250 29/11 A2996 OTHER DATA Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: Other FAA FSDO: CINCINNATI, OH (GL05) Entry date: 05/14/2007 |
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On 16 May 2007 12:14:55 -0700, Andrew Sarangan
wrote in . com: Thanks for the transcription of the audio file. You are welcome. I should also add that my computer's clock was about 9 minutes 30 second behind the official time, so all the time stamps must be advanced by approx 10 minutes to be correct. That may be true of the times shown on your web site, but the times included in my transcription are offsets into the audio files that have little correlation with time of day, as the receiver's squelch eliminated all the dead air time. How have you configured your receiver to record these files? I might like to do something similar. |
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On May 16, 3:44 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On 16 May 2007 12:14:55 -0700, Andrew Sarangan wrote in . com: Thanks for the transcription of the audio file. You are welcome. I should also add that my computer's clock was about 9 minutes 30 second behind the official time, so all the time stamps must be advanced by approx 10 minutes to be correct. That may be true of the times shown on your web site, but the times included in my transcription are offsets into the audio files that have little correlation with time of day, as the receiver's squelch eliminated all the dead air time. How have you configured your receiver to record these files? I might like to do something similar. It is not difficult to set this up if you have a linux system. It is an ordinary scanner, and the audio is fed into the soundcard and captured using the 'sox' software. Sox has switches for selecting the input threshold (squech) and to do various processing to create virtually any output format you like. If you are interested I can send you the script file (really trivial - it is only one line long). My setup is primarily limited by the fact that the antenna barely clears the top of my roof but I still get pretty decent reception out to 30 miles or so. |
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:
It is not difficult to set this up if you have a linux system. It is an ordinary scanner, and the audio is fed into the soundcard and captured using the 'sox' software. There are also several free or very cheap Windows apps that do the same thing. For years, I recorded scanner audio of the local PD / FD. |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:02:34 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote in : Andrew Sarangan wrote: It is not difficult to set this up if you have a linux system. It is an ordinary scanner, and the audio is fed into the soundcard and captured using the 'sox' software. There are also several free or very cheap Windows apps that do the same thing. For years, I recorded scanner audio of the local PD / FD. Will the software you mention not only create the audio files, but FTP them to a server also? |
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On May 17, 11:52 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:02:34 GMT, B A R R Y wrote in : Andrew Sarangan wrote: It is not difficult to set this up if you have a linux system. It is an ordinary scanner, and the audio is fed into the soundcard and captured using the 'sox' software. There are also several free or very cheap Windows apps that do the same thing. For years, I recorded scanner audio of the local PD / FD. Will the software you mention not only create the audio files, but FTP them to a server also? The software resides on my server, so uploading is not an issue for me. If you doing it on windows, it may need extra setup. I will write up something about the setup and post it to my website in the next few days. |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
Will the software you mention not only create the audio files, but FTP them to a server also? Probably not, you'd need to script that, or actually save them to the server. |
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On May 18, 6:58 am, B A R R Y wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote: Will the software you mention not only create the audio files, but FTP them to a server also? Probably not, you'd need to script that, or actually save them to the server. In my case, I create the mp3 files directly in the public_html directory on the server, so there is no ftp or scripting involved. Linux makes this all very easy. I don't know how one would do this on Windows. |
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On May 16, 3:44 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On 16 May 2007 12:14:55 -0700, Andrew Sarangan wrote in . com: Thanks for the transcription of the audio file. You are welcome. I should also add that my computer's clock was about 9 minutes 30 second behind the official time, so all the time stamps must be advanced by approx 10 minutes to be correct. That may be true of the times shown on your web site, but the times included in my transcription are offsets into the audio files that have little correlation with time of day, as the receiver's squelch eliminated all the dead air time. How have you configured your receiver to record these files? I might like to do something similar. There is some unintelligible audio at 10:54 that sounds like it might be the same voice as the Bonanza pilot. Then at 10:57 something that sounds like "you guys too close". |
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