Soft field landings - low wing vs high wing aircraft

Ground effect can also lengthen the flair process, not a good thing
with most unimproved strips.

Then you're flying too fast. I put 1000 hours on a 182 and now with the
Bonanza I fly it basically the same. 70 MPH short final slowing to
about 65 over the edge of the runway. Just fly it right into the
ground. This is assuming a non paved but not a really soft field.




Paul kgyy wrote:

Ground effect can also lengthen the flair process, not a good thing
with most unimproved strips.

In article ,
Newps wrote:

Then you're flying too fast. I put 1000 hours on a 182 and now with the
Bonanza I fly it basically the same. 70 MPH short final slowing to
about 65 over the edge of the runway. Just fly it right into the
ground. This is assuming a non paved but not a really soft field.




Paul kgyy wrote:

Ground effect can also lengthen the flair process, not a good thing
with most unimproved strips.


No -- his flare exhibits insufficient flair!

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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In article ,
Newps wrote:

Then you're flying too fast. I put 1000 hours on a 182 and now with the
Bonanza I fly it basically the same. 70 MPH short final slowing to
about 65 over the edge of the runway. Just fly it right into the
ground. This is assuming a non paved but not a really soft field.




Paul kgyy wrote:

Ground effect can also lengthen the flair process, not a good thing
with most unimproved strips.


No -- his flare exhibits insufficient flair!

OH! NO! Not this carp again! :~)

On May 21, 10:40 pm, Orval Fairbairn
wrote:


I wish I could say that I always land with flair, but my flare usually
turns into a thud.

On 2007-05-22, Newps wrote:

Then you're flying too fast.

I would agree. But if an aircraft requires more precision on the part
of the pilot, then that's a factor in itself, and in fact it's a
strike against it.

So it seems the low wing confines pilots to a smaller range of speeds
in this scenario, making it less tolerant of speed deviations, so what
am I getting for the extra effort? Is the ground roll over turf a
noticeably smoother ride in a low wing? Is it less likely to have the
landing gear sink into soft spots? I'm speculating that that's the
case, but it could all be negligeable for all I know.

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So it seems the low wing confines pilots to a smaller range of speeds
in this scenario, making it less tolerant of speed deviations, so what
am I getting for the extra effort?

I don't know the answer to your question, but the above contains a
flawed premise. A slippery craft would confine the pilot to a smaller
range of approach speeds (since excess speed is harder to bleed off).
This is independent of the wing configuration. Perhaps the high wing
aircraft in question is draggier, or high wings in general are draggier.

If this is the case, then what you get in tradeoff is better performance
for a given power.

Jose
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Justin,

so what
am I getting for the extra effort?


You get to fly a low wing aircraft! ;-)

Seriously, though, if you can't control your speed on final enough to
avoid more flare than you want in a low wing, you have no business
flying to (difficult) airfields in any aircraft.

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