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Old September 2nd 03, 10:54 PM
Phineas Pinkham
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message

While I don't begrudge her the money, the choice of a questionable
ghost writer, released from the NYT for by-lining a story written by a
free-lancer means the whole project will be discredited.


Ed Rasimus


Sounds like jealous sour grapes to us, old boy!


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Old September 2nd 03, 11:06 PM
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message

While I don't begrudge her the money, the choice of a questionable
ghost writer, released from the NYT for by-lining a story written
by a free-lancer means the whole project will be discredited.


Ed Rasimus


Sounds like jealous sour grapes to us, old boy!


Not to me. Ed's already got one excellent book written by his own hand and a
second on the way. He may not outsell Lynch, but I can certainly tell you
that he's getting more of my money and she is not.

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Old September 2nd 03, 11:27 PM
Phineas Pinkham
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"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message

While I don't begrudge her the money, the choice of a questionable
ghost writer, released from the NYT for by-lining a story written
by a free-lancer means the whole project will be discredited.


Ed Rasimus


Sounds like jealous sour grapes to us, old boy!


Not to me.
Tom Schoene

In addition to a Pulitzer Prize, Rick Bragg, the ghost writer-
has twice won the prestigious American Society of Newspaper Editors
Distinguished Writing Award, and more than 50 writing awards in his 20-year
career. In 1992, he was awarded a Nieman Fellowship at Harvard University.
He has taught writing in colleges and in newspaper news rooms.

Sour grapes mode still on! :-)




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Old September 3rd 03, 01:43 AM
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message

Sour grapes mode still on! :-)


The only sour grapes on display in the fruit market that is your mind are
all yours "old boy".

Ed has Been There and Done That, and most assuredly Has The Teeshirt. Lynch
has as well but under a different paradigm altogether.

You, on the other hand, have done *what* exactly that merits a book deal
again? Just remind me, I'm sure it was something stupendous.

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Old September 3rd 03, 03:06 AM
Don Harstad
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message
...

"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message

While I don't begrudge her the money, the choice of a questionable
ghost writer, released from the NYT for by-lining a story written
by a free-lancer means the whole project will be discredited.


Ed Rasimus

Sounds like jealous sour grapes to us, old boy!


Not to me.
Tom Schoene

In addition to a Pulitzer Prize, Rick Bragg, the ghost writer-
has twice won the prestigious American Society of Newspaper Editors
Distinguished Writing Award, and more than 50 writing awards in his

20-year
career. In 1992, he was awarded a Nieman Fellowship at Harvard University.
He has taught writing in colleges and in newspaper news rooms.

Sour grapes mode still on! :-)


Ed's right. Further, I don't think Jessica's in a position to make an
informed judgment regarding the ghost writer. Especially one who appears to
have purloined somebody else's work. Makes you wonder about the awards, as
well, doesn't it?

Don H.


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Old September 3rd 03, 12:34 PM
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message ...
"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message

While I don't begrudge her the money, the choice of a questionable
ghost writer, released from the NYT for by-lining a story written
by a free-lancer means the whole project will be discredited.


Ed Rasimus

Sounds like jealous sour grapes to us, old boy!


Not to me.
Tom Schoene

In addition to a Pulitzer Prize, Rick Bragg, the ghost writer-
has twice won the prestigious American Society of Newspaper Editors
Distinguished Writing Award, and more than 50 writing awards in his 20-year
career. In 1992, he was awarded a Nieman Fellowship at Harvard University.
He has taught writing in colleges and in newspaper news rooms.

Sour grapes mode still on! :-)


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Rick Bragg's books about his grandfather (Ava'a Man) and his mother
(All Over but the Shoutin) are as good as I have read by a living
author. If he does as good a job in helping Jessica tell her story (I
Am a Soldier Too) it will be a best seller. They are splitting a
million bucks advance for the story. I predict that the book will make
each of them far more than that. He is a master story teller who can
really spin a yarn. I saw him on CSPAN, but he would not discuss the
NY Times debacle. I think he got a bum rap. The Times needs him far
worse than he needs the Times.

Gene Myers
A gimpy old pilot who reads a lot.
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Old September 3rd 03, 06:09 PM
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote:

"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message

While I don't begrudge her the money, the choice of a questionable
ghost writer, released from the NYT for by-lining a story written
by a free-lancer means the whole project will be discredited.


Ed Rasimus

Sounds like jealous sour grapes to us, old boy!


Not to me.


In addition to a Pulitzer Prize, Rick Bragg, the ghost writer-
has twice won the prestigious American Society of Newspaper Editors
Distinguished Writing Award, and more than 50 writing awards in his 20-year
career.


And Walter Duranty won a Pulitzer for lying in Stalin's service
in the New York Times. What's your point?

Can you say "ex cathedra"?


Billy

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Old September 3rd 03, 06:39 PM
Phineas Pinkham
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My point is there is no need to characterize Rick Bragg as a "questionable"
ghost writer.

"ex cathedra" by whose pronouncement?

Can you say mea culpa?

Billy Beck wrote in message Can you say "ex cathedra"?


Billy



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Old September 3rd 03, 07:43 PM
Billy Beck
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote:

My point is there is no need to characterize Rick Bragg as a "questionable"
ghost writer.


Of course there is: the man took credit in the public prints for
reports on which he was not the one who did the work. This is an
indisputable fact. And you can say that is was simply the condition
of his employment with the New York Times if you want to, but I'll
only point out that no serious and self-respecting journalist would
accept those conditions. Bragg is not fit to sharpen Stephen Crane's
pencil.

"ex cathedra" by whose pronouncement?

Can you say mea culpa?


Yes, I can, but it's not necessary in this case: I'm not the one
who cited other peoples' rote huzzahs for Bragg. That was you.


Billy

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Old September 3rd 03, 10:04 PM
Leslie Swartz
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Admitting to being on the NYT staff is akin to admitting you're a member of
the KKK.

Sad to say, the reputation of the members of an organization is a reflection
upon the reputation of the organization itself- and vice versa.

The NYT has been playing fast and loose for many years now; it's reputation
is finally catching up with reality.

The *rational* response is to pretty much assume that *all* members of the
NYT are lying hacks, with to grind, an axe.

Yeah, well, I guess the crossword puzzle is still grounded in reality . . .

Steve Swartz


"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message
...
My point is there is no need to characterize Rick Bragg as a

"questionable"
ghost writer.

"ex cathedra" by whose pronouncement?

Can you say mea culpa?

Billy Beck wrote in message Can you say "ex cathedra"?


Billy





 




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