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Old May 28th 07, 05:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 28, 4:20 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
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From: chris

From what I've read it sounds like any nut job can carry a concealed
gun..


Legally. NO!
In my state (and most) a license to carry a concealed weapon requires
one to be fingerprinted, photographed, and run through the FBI database.
You are also required to take an approved training course before you
even apply for a license.


That actually sounds reasonable.. Although I would think all of the
above should apply to any firearms license!!!


Are you happy for someone to walk into your work with a gun in

their pocket? Or a bank?


Carrying a LEGAL weapon? Not only do I have no problem with it and
do so often (as does my wife)....... I wish more people would.

How does the bank teller or the security
guard out front know the guy who just walked inside isn't going to
hold up the bank???


AFAIK, they've never even known I was carrying a gun. I'm not exactly
waving it around in the air as I walk into the bank. If I don't know you and
suddenly let you know that I have a gun............You're about to have a BAD
day.


So, I am just curious, what happens when someone who is carrying a
concealed gun accidentally drops it or something, and the public sees
the gun - do they run off screaming like they do on the movies??? And
would the knowledge that random members of the public you are
interacting with, could well be carrying a gun, make you suspicious
and paranoid of your fellow citizen??? I am not trying to have a go
at you guys, but I think this is a fair question!



Must suck to be the police in your country, never knowing if the car
they've pulled over has a guy inside ready to draw his gun on them??


That's true anywhere! When I've been pulled over by the police, the
first thing I do is inform them that I am LEGALLY carrying a concealed
handgun. The usual question is "where?". I tell them and then ask how
they want to handle it. The responses have ranged from "Just keep
your hand away from it" to having the officer remove it from my holster.
I then have to show my license to carry, after which it tends to be a
non-issue. Actually, I think I've gotten out of a ticket a few times since
legally carrying a firearm tends to identify you as one of the "good guys".
I've even had conversations with officers about the gun I carry. A Sig 239
.40 cal with a Crimson Trace laser sight and a custom action job. Hell,
my only worry that some cop may try to confiscate it and keep it for his own
personal weapon. Many of them hate carrying a Glock.


I think that's what our police carry, when they do carry - most often
they are unarmed. There is a Taser trial going on at the moment, but
a good number of the public oppose the Police use of Tasers because
they don't want the police to misuse the Tasers. I think it's silly
really...


Maybe that's why our police don't kill people half as often - there's
almost no chance the guy behind the wheel has a gun, so no need to
shoot him if he comes at you???


How many violent gang members of a, um, diverse racial background
do you have in your country that have prior felony convictions and carry
ILLEGAL firearms? Do you have a lot of brain dead liberals who consider
criminals to be "victims of society" in your country?



In order: 1) Probably quite a few, although you don't tend to hear of
it that often
2) Lots!!!!

There is the odd gang shooting, but it's relatively uncommon.


You might be interested in this linkhttp://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3047


I had a look at that, but I am inclined not to take a document like
that on the NRA website at face value, so I will do a bit more
digging..


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Old May 28th 07, 03:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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And
would the knowledge that random members of the public you are
interacting with, could well be carrying a gun, make you suspicious
and paranoid of your fellow citizen???


I think it makes criminals suspicious and paranoid or fellow citizens.
Crime goes down.

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Old May 28th 07, 05:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
And
would the knowledge that random members of the public you are
interacting with, could well be carrying a gun, make you suspicious
and paranoid of your fellow citizen???



I think it makes criminals suspicious and paranoid or fellow citizens.
Crime goes down.


Exactly. This is a point lost on so many anti-firearm zealots. My
neighbor is a state patrol officer; owns and appreciates firearms.
I like having a neighbor like him. Likewise, he knows that I own
fireams and am licensed to carry them. We are both confident in the
knowledge that we are both willing and capable of covering each others
"six" if the need ever arose. The other neighbors benefit as well
although they probably don't even know it.



 




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