Coordinated turns without rudder, and autopilots

"Denny" wrote in message
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On the other hand however, in a T38, you can fly a complete aerobatic
sequence including point rolls with both feet planted firmly on the floor
of
the rudder tunnels.
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I've always wanted to fly a 38 but never had the opportunity...
My Super Viking was one of those few GA machines with adequate tail
volume that you could fly instrument approaches with your feet on the
floor... Conversely, you could fly the plane nicely without ailerons
just using that powerful rudder...

One of the little tricks I do when 'unbrain washing' the pilots I have
helped over the years, is to say to them that: "you have just snapped
the cables to the ailerons and the elevator... now fly me back to the
airport without touching the yoke!"... Some have been totally
helpless... A few have almost instantly figured it out.. And most need
only be shown how for a few seconds... The majority have been amazed
after they successfully herded the plane a dozen miles back to the
airport and it is gratifying to see the light bulb in their head
suddenly light up as they begin to understand how the controls
actually work...

denny


I agree with this technique completely and have used it myself when teaching
all through my career.
Dudley Henriques

Dan writes:

So where is this perfect airplane? I don't know about you, but I need
the rudder pedals to fly the aircraft.

But autopilots apparently do not, and that's what puzzles me.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Dan writes:


So where is this perfect airplane? I don't know about you, but I need
the rudder pedals to fly the aircraft.


But autopilots apparently do not, and that's what puzzles me.

Autopilots in simulators do not. Actual (that's opposite of virtual)
light aircraft need a rudder. If you turn the yoke, the plane will
bank, turn and eventually become coordinated, but for a while in
the interim, you'll be flying uncoordinated.

Some of these differences are why I disregard anything you may say,
correct or not, because you don't understand the basics of actual
flight regardless of how much of a master h4xor you are in the
simulator.

Erik writes:

Autopilots in simulators do not. Actual (that's opposite of virtual)
light aircraft need a rudder.

Autopilots on light aircraft do not, and I'd like to know why.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Erik writes:

Autopilots in simulators do not. Actual (that's opposite of virtual)
light aircraft need a rudder.

Autopilots on light aircraft do not, and I'd like to know why.


Why, , youre never going to fly one anyway, fjukkwit.


bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:

Erik writes:


Autopilots in simulators do not. Actual (that's opposite of virtual)
light aircraft need a rudder.


Autopilots on light aircraft do not, and I'd like to know why.

See, this is why.

Yes, and you're the resident expert why? Here, here's what you do.
At the main screen (at least on 2004) go down to settings, find the
realism settings button. I know that most of yours are all set to
the most unrealistic, but at least uncheck the autorudder box.
That box is checked by default. Then turn off your damn computer
and shut the **** up.

****wit.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Dan writes:


So where is this perfect airplane? I don't know about you, but I need
the rudder pedals to fly the aircraft.


But autopilots apparently do not, and that's what puzzles me.

Where the hell is Bertie.

Sorry about the troll thing, you were totally right.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Dan writes:


So where is this perfect airplane? I don't know about you, but I
need
the rudder pedals to fly the aircraft.


But autopilots apparently do not, and that's what puzzles me.

Where the hell is Bertie.

Sorry about the troll thing, you were totally right.

I'm always right. You're forgiven. Your pennance is to bring me some
beer.

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Dan writes:

So where is this perfect airplane? I don't know about you, but I need
the rudder pedals to fly the aircraft.

But autopilots apparently do not, and that's what puzzles me.


Everything puzzles you fjukkwit, primarily because of your autistic
attitude.


Bertie

Dan wrote:
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So where is this perfect airplane? I don't know about you, but I need
the rudder pedals to fly the aircraft.

Get in most any aircraft. Take it to a normal cruise airspeed.
Put your feet flat on the floor and roll her into a standard rate
turn. I can almost guarantee the ball will be centered. It
would be a highly inefficient and impractical design if it
doesn't fly coordinated without rudder impact in that
regime.