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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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This is certainly true in France. The average person has no gun, so when
you
are stopped by the side of the road, if you open the door or get out of
the
car, you don't have to worry about being shot. At the same time, the cops
are
reasonably sure that anyone who pulls a gun is a hardened crook, and not
an
innocent person exercising his right to carry a firearm. Thus, they don't
have to constantly worry about having to draw and shoot in normal
situations,
and they don't have to ask themselves if someone pointing a gun at them is
just a regular guy protecting himself.

Clueless as usual. Find any instance were a licensed person in the US has
exited his car at a traffic stop and fired on the police. Your a moron.

"Maxwell" wrote:
Find any instance were a licensed person in the US
has exited his car at a traffic stop and fired on the police.

Trivially easy:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ies-shot_x.htm

http://www.lanecounty.org/News/News_...ease_12821.htm

The OTHER side of the coin:

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...top-shootings/

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. .
"Maxwell" wrote:
Find any instance were a licensed person in the US
has exited his car at a traffic stop and fired on the police.

Trivially easy:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ies-shot_x.htm

http://www.lanecounty.org/News/News_...ease_12821.htm


Neither of these were done by licensed gun carriers.


The OTHER side of the coin:

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...top-shootings/

"Blueskies" wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
"Maxwell" wrote:
Find any instance were a licensed person in the US
has exited his car at a traffic stop and fired on the police.

Trivially easy:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ies-shot_x.htm

http://www.lanecounty.org/News/News_...ease_12821.htm


Neither of these were done by licensed gun carriers.

Quite - as stated in another post I somehow managed to overlook the context
of the subthread and for some reason assumed "licensed" meant "licensed
driver" which, in retrospect, was a dumb mistake.

D'oh!

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
"Blueskies" wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
"Maxwell" wrote:
Find any instance were a licensed person in the US
has exited his car at a traffic stop and fired on the police.

Trivially easy:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ies-shot_x.htm

http://www.lanecounty.org/News/News_...ease_12821.htm


Neither of these were done by licensed gun carriers.

Quite - as stated in another post I somehow managed to overlook the
context
of the subthread and for some reason assumed "licensed" meant "licensed
driver" which, in retrospect, was a dumb mistake.


Not dumb, just simple. Conceal licensed folks are usually accepted as the
good guys by law enforcement. You have to have a pretty clear record to
obtain one. When the law passed in my state, most of the guys where I worked
were all touting they would be the first to sign up. It was a big deal. We
were all passing around the phone number for ordering the applications forms
and talking about it daily. But when the information started arriving,
clearly 1 in 3 that intended to apply found they couldn't quailify. A friend
of my was sighed for assualt 3 years earlier, for simply shoving someone in
a bar. He didn't actally hit the guy. But it disquaified him.

Others were declined over simple protective orders from past divorces, a pot
bust many years earlier, etc. You truly have to qualify with you past
record.

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
"Maxwell" wrote:
Find any instance were a licensed person in the US
has exited his car at a traffic stop and fired on the police.

Trivially easy:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ies-shot_x.htm

http://www.lanecounty.org/News/News_...ease_12821.htm

The OTHER side of the coin:

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/st...top-shootings/

I read them pretty fast, but didn't see any reference to the shooters have a
hand gun license. Did I miss something, or did you misunderstand my use of
the term licensed persons?

"Maxwell" wrote:
I read them pretty fast, but didn't see any reference to the shooters
have a hand gun license. Did I miss something, or did you
misunderstand my use of the term licensed persons?

I assumed auto license since your statement read "...licensed person in the
US has exited his car...." Proximity of the two words mislead me so I
misunderstand your intent.

I sit corrected.

Maxwell writes:

Find any instance were a licensed person in the US has
exited his car at a traffic stop and fired on the police.

Most people driving have a license, even those who fire on police.