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Old May 30th 07, 01:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Is Mxsmanic a Terrorost or a wannabe writes:

People often fear what they don't understand.


People often fear things that they should fear, too.


Which is why you never come out of your room.

Bertie
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Old May 30th 07, 01:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Paul kgyy writes:

They also start the turn rather gradually, which minimizes the
adverse yaw.


They turn quickly considering that they are not touching the rudder.
I want to know how they do it.


Tough ****, noone is going to tell you.

Unless you send me $300



Bertie



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Old May 30th 07, 01:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Ash Wyllie writes:

Looks like you found a simulator error.

Load a 172, and try very slow flight without using the rudder. Use
power, hold altitude and keep slowing until you stall.

You should emd up in a spin.


Why would I do that? It has nothing to do with my question: How can
autopilots make coordinated turns without control of the rudder?


it has everythign to do wiht your question, fjukktard.


Bertie
  #94  
Old May 30th 07, 01:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com writes:

What in the world makes you think that an autopilot can make a
"coordinated" turn without using the rudder if a pilot can't?


Presumably a pilot can; I want to know how. And nobody has been able
to tell me thus far.


I can, but I won;t because you're an idiot.


Bertie
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Old May 30th 07, 01:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Maxwell writes:

Nothing, the turns are not perfectly coordinated, they don't have to
be.


The ball hardly moves.


There's no ball, there's no ruddrr. there's no airplane, fjukkwit.

it's a computer..


Bertie
  #96  
Old May 30th 07, 04:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 30, 1:11 am, "Maxwell" wrote:
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

ups.com...

Perhaps you should read a little more and type a little less yourself.

MX posts a stupid and useless question, in a single sentence no less, like:

"How do autopilots make coordinated turns even when they cannot control the
rudder?

And you morons struggle for days, wasting hours of your time, nit picking
every possible aspect of the issue literally to DEATH - while he sits back
enjoying the party and contemplates his next one liner. And just because
some of us don't chime in and join the useless "nit pick", you want to
openly accuse us of having nothing useful to add.

Wake up and smell the coffee chump, you are being played like a grand piano
by simple social outcast with minimal trolling skills.


You and your friends have been cluttering up this newsgroup far more
than MX, and your posts are more abusive. I have never seen MX call
anyone a moron, but you seem to have no difficulty coming up with
creative was to abuse others.



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Old May 30th 07, 04:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 30, 1:11 am, "Maxwell" wrote:
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

ups.com...

Perhaps you should read a little more and type a little less yourself.

MX posts a stupid and useless question, in a single sentence no less,
like:

"How do autopilots make coordinated turns even when they cannot control
the
rudder?

And you morons struggle for days, wasting hours of your time, nit picking
every possible aspect of the issue literally to DEATH - while he sits
back
enjoying the party and contemplates his next one liner. And just because
some of us don't chime in and join the useless "nit pick", you want to
openly accuse us of having nothing useful to add.

Wake up and smell the coffee chump, you are being played like a grand
piano
by simple social outcast with minimal trolling skills.


You and your friends have been cluttering up this newsgroup far more
than MX, and your posts are more abusive. I have never seen MX call
anyone a moron, but you seem to have no difficulty coming up with
creative was to abuse others.


And I suppose you never considered that many others feel your relentless
nick picking of one of MXs senseless questions is considered just as much
clutter. Your just feeding the troll.




  #98  
Old May 30th 07, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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On May 30, 11:37 am, "Maxwell" wrote:
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

oups.com...





On May 30, 1:11 am, "Maxwell" wrote:
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message


roups.com...


Perhaps you should read a little more and type a little less yourself.


MX posts a stupid and useless question, in a single sentence no less,
like:


"How do autopilots make coordinated turns even when they cannot control
the
rudder?


And you morons struggle for days, wasting hours of your time, nit picking
every possible aspect of the issue literally to DEATH - while he sits
back
enjoying the party and contemplates his next one liner. And just because
some of us don't chime in and join the useless "nit pick", you want to
openly accuse us of having nothing useful to add.


Wake up and smell the coffee chump, you are being played like a grand
piano
by simple social outcast with minimal trolling skills.


You and your friends have been cluttering up this newsgroup far more
than MX, and your posts are more abusive. I have never seen MX call
anyone a moron, but you seem to have no difficulty coming up with
creative was to abuse others.


And I suppose you never considered that many others feel your relentless
nick picking of one of MXs senseless questions is considered just as much
clutter. Your just feeding the troll.- Hide quoted text -


Opionions of people with fictitous names don't mean a thing, because
they don't carry any responsibility for what they say. No one takes
these posts seriously. There are many of us who have participated here
for over a decade using our true identity. No, Bertie the Bunyip is
not one of them.

I have given you more time than you are worth, so I will stop now.



  #99  
Old May 30th 07, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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John Theune writes:

Or D: Nobody wants to answer your question.


Rest assured, if some of the most vocal posters here actually knew the correct
answer, their egos would compel them to immediately provide it for all to see.
It's much more satisfying to such people to post a correct answer than it is
for them to pretend they have the answer and just don't want to reveal it.
  #100  
Old May 30th 07, 07:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Coordinated turns without rudder, and autopilots

Ash Wyllie writes:

2) Newer light aircraft are designed so that at cruise speed and small aileron
deflections rudder input is not needed.


But the AP aileron deflections do not appear to be small, as it rolls the
aircraft rapidly and smoothly into a coordinated turn. And this is on an
aircraft designed sixty years ago.
 




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