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Old May 31st 07, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Wanttaja
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:08:45 GMT, "Dick" wrote:

How is the add water to gas test made ? Thanks


See Page 4 of

http://www.eaa26.org/apr06.pdf

Ron Wanttaja
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Old June 1st 07, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:08:45 GMT, "Dick" wrote:

How is the add water to gas test made ? Thanks


See Page 4 of

http://www.eaa26.org/apr06.pdf

Ron Wanttaja


Yup, works real well. A test tube with a 10% level line on it. Fill with water to the 10% line, fill remainder with fuel
under test. Shake it up, and if the separation line is higher up the tube that the original water separation line, the
water absorbed the alcohol adding to its volume. Works right now basically no waiting...

I have not tried Jays Alka Seltzer method....


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Old June 1st 07, 03:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
"Blueskies" wrote:

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:08:45 GMT, "Dick" wrote:

How is the add water to gas test made ? Thanks


See Page 4 of

http://www.eaa26.org/apr06.pdf

Ron Wanttaja


Yup, works real well. A test tube with a 10% level line on it. Fill with
water to the 10% line, fill remainder with fuel
under test. Shake it up, and if the separation line is higher up the tube
that the original water separation line, the
water absorbed the alcohol adding to its volume. Works right now basically no
waiting...

I have not tried Jays Alka Seltzer method....


I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!
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Old June 1st 07, 04:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!- Hide quoted text -


You talking about "rubbing alcohol"? We tested it with that, and it
worked for us.

Fizzing, that is...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old June 1st 07, 04:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Orval Fairbairn
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In article .com,
Jay Honeck wrote:

I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!- Hide quoted text -


You talking about "rubbing alcohol"? We tested it with that, and it
worked for us.

Fizzing, that is...



nope -- "Denatured Alcohol" purchased in a gallon can.
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Old June 2nd 07, 02:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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You talking about "rubbing alcohol"? We tested it with that, and it
worked for us.


Fizzing, that is...


nope -- "Denatured Alcohol" purchased in a gallon can.


What's the difference? Is one ethanol, and one methanol?
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old June 2nd 07, 02:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
clare at snyder.on.ca
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:22:28 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote:

You talking about "rubbing alcohol"? We tested it with that, and it
worked for us.


Fizzing, that is...


nope -- "Denatured Alcohol" purchased in a gallon can.


What's the difference? Is one ethanol, and one methanol?

Denatured is ethanol poluted with anything to make it undrinkable.
Generally Methyl, but sometimes even Gasoline is used to "denature"
it. Rubbing alky is generally Isopropyl

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Old June 2nd 07, 04:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!- Hide quoted text -


You talking about "rubbing alcohol"? We tested it with that, and it
worked for us.

Fizzing, that is...

;-)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

NO....
"rubbing alcohol" is_NOT_ denatured alcohol.

It is Isopropyl. ===

Isopropyl "rubbing" alcohol smells nasty.
Denatured alcohol smells sweet and temptingly drinkable.


DANGER: both have poisons added - mandated by the FEDS.
Gotta pay the liquor tax if you want alcohol that's 'safe' to drink.

P.S.
I'm still uncertain what you mean by... "worked for us".
It would seem that neither would fizz without the presence of H20.

- Barnyard BOb -
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Old June 2nd 07, 07:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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I tried the Alka Seltzer trick on some denatured alcohol -- no result.
It did not fizz!


You know I've been wondering: Does the Alka Seltzer trick really check to
see if alcohol is present? I'm no chemist, but I wonder if the Alka Seltzer
is just reacting with the water that most alcohols will attract from the
moisture in the air.

How about it? Any chemists in the group? If the mogas were blended with
alcohol with low water content, would the Alka Seltzer fizz at all? Maybe
the best test is still the "line on the beaker" test.

Regards,
John Severyn
KLVK (all mogas has alky in my area, making my STC no good at all)


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Old June 2nd 07, 02:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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You know I've been wondering: Does the Alka Seltzer trick really check to
see if alcohol is present? I'm no chemist, but I wonder if the Alka Seltzer
is just reacting with the water that most alcohols will attract from the
moisture in the air.

How about it? Any chemists in the group? If the mogas were blended with
alcohol with low water content, would the Alka Seltzer fizz at all? Maybe
the best test is still the "line on the beaker" test.


Well, we've been down this road before, back when the Alky test first
came on the scene. Some chemist here ended up concluding that the
test was valid, but I'm always open to hearing other thoughts on the
matter.

If the danged test DIDN'T work, that could ruin my whole day...
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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