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Old June 1st 07, 11:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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"orange" wrote in message
news:x6N7i.4362$aW5.2739@trndny09...
All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell


I just saw this on the EAA site:


ETHANOL-FREE AUTOFUEL TO BE AVAILABLE AT THREE NEW ENGLAND
AIRPORTS STARTING IN JUNE



http://www.eaa.org/communications/ea..._autofuel.html


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Old June 1st 07, 11:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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"orange" wrote in message news:x6N7i.4362$aW5.2739@trndny09...
All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell


I just saw this on the EAA site:


ETHANOL-FREE AUTOFUEL TO BE AVAILABLE AT THREE NEW ENGLAND AIRPORTS STARTING IN JUNE



http://www.eaa.org/communications/ea..._autofuel.html


And I'm sure it will cost way more to be processed less, kinda like that organic food....


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Old June 2nd 07, 12:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:23:20 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:


And I'm sure it will cost way more to be processed less, kinda like that organic food....


Well, avgas always costs more, because the airport is making a profit
on it, and in the case of mogas is not selling very much of it.

Mogas at Hampton Airfield NH is still $3.40, though I suppose it will
go up in time, especially if lots of people discover they can buy
unadulterated gas there.

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Old June 2nd 07, 03:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Cubdriver" wrote

Mogas at Hampton Airfield NH is still $3.40, though I suppose it will
go up in time, especially if lots of people discover they can buy
unadulterated gas there.


It depends on management's philosophy.

If they were to keep their profit margin low, and sell a lot of it, they
might find it is better to keep it cheap to sell a large quantity of it. Of
course, it all hinges on being able to keep the supply coming fast enough.
--
Jim in NC


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Old June 2nd 07, 07:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:42:25 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Cubdriver" wrote

Mogas at Hampton Airfield NH is still $3.40, though I suppose it will
go up in time, especially if lots of people discover they can buy
unadulterated gas there.


It depends on management's philosophy.

If they were to keep their profit margin low, and sell a lot of it, they
might find it is better to keep it cheap to sell a large quantity of it. Of
course, it all hinges on being able to keep the supply coming fast enough.



Selling lots makes sure the supply stays fresh, too.

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Old June 2nd 07, 11:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Somebody in the Piper group just posted that Peterson (the STC provider) is
going to start getting 91 octane ethanol free autogas at a couple of
airports out here.

I'll get the info and post it here.

mike

"orange" wrote in message
news:x6N7i.4362$aW5.2739@trndny09...
All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell




"mike regish" wrote in message
. ..
I'm pretty sure Mass. is already there. I don't know if there's a
minimum, but we've got 10% ethanol everywhere now.

mike

"tony roberts" wrote in message
news:indiacharlieecho-9E437A.22120430052007@shawnews...

Is it true that there is no longer any requirement to label gasoline
contaminated with alcohol?

Worse.
I read that, starting in 2007, in some places, California and some
Canadian Provinces included, it is regulated that all gasoline sold must
contain at least 5% alcohol/ethanol.

Tony
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Old June 2nd 07, 11:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
mike regish
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Here it is.

Petersen Aviation, Inc., which like EAA provides autofuel
supplementary type certificates (STC), reports it will begin
distributing non-ethanol, 91-octane gasoline to three New England
airports during the first week of June 2007. The airports include
Minuteman Airport (6B6) in Stow, Massachusetts (978-897-3933);
Plymouth Airport (PYM) in Plymouth, Massachusetts (508-746-2020);
and Skylark Airport (7B6), East Windsor, Connecticut
(860-623-8085).

Only ethanol-blended gasoline has been available at New England
service stations over the past several years. This has made it
impossible for pilots who hold EAA and Petersen Aviation autogas
STCs, or other aircraft that can use autofuel, including many
light-sport aircraft and homebuilts, to find suitable fuel. But
since automotive gasoline sold at airports for use in aircraft is
considered “aviation” gasoline, it is exempt from oxygenated fuel
requirements under the Federal Reformulated Gasoline (RFG) program.
Therefore importing non-ethanol gasoline into regions such as New
England is allowed.

Peterson says the ethanol-free 91-octane gasoline will be certified
to meet the specifications required by both Petersen and EAA STCs.


mike


"orange" wrote in message
news:x6N7i.4362$aW5.2739@trndny09...
All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas
Greg Dwinell



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Old June 2nd 07, 12:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Cubdriver
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 06:15:49 -0400, "mike regish"
wrote:

Only ethanol-blended gasoline has been available at New England
service stations over the past several years.


Not correct. New Hampshire sold auto fuel (in the southern counties
only) with MBTE until fairly recently. The swtich to alky was no more
than six months ago.

In the northern counties (Carroll being the one closest to me, a drive
of about thirty miles) MBTE wasn't required, and I knew more than one
car owner who made the trip weekly because he didn't like the notion
of MBTE (or is it MTBE, crikey, I don't know). I'm uncertain whether
the ethanol mandate applies there or not; I don't think it does, since
ethanol was introduced only as a substitute for MBTE.


Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com
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Old June 2nd 07, 12:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Cubdriver
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:18:37 GMT, "orange" wrote:

All of New England has 10% gasohol at the auto pump...
However, it isn't blended in until it gets to this regon... so many aero
clubs can still get batches of straight gas


The last part is correct in my experience. Hampton Airfield buys its
mogas from the terminal in Portland ME.

The wonderful thing about ethanol is that it can't presently be pumped
through pipelines, so straight gasoline is theoretically available at
whatever central point it's mixed in.


Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com
 




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