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Old June 5th 07, 08:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Shirl
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Shirl:
Bad pilots and bad maintenance exist, sure ... but accidents can and do
occur in the most meticulously maintained aircraft flown by
"extraordinarily safe" pilots too. You shouldn't make any assumptions
about pilots or maintenance every time there is a crash.


Mxsmanic wrote:
I'm just going by the numbers. Random, unavoidable mechanical or other
failures are quite rare as causes of accidents, even in GA aircraft.


Not as rare as you assume.

Most accidents are avoidable, either with a better pilot
or a more carefully maintained aircraft, or both.


There are PLENTY of carefully maintained aircraft that have problems and
failures, some resulting in accidents and some not. The concept you
aren't understanding is that mechanical failure is not necessarily an
indication of poor/careless/inadequate maintenance, and in fact, more
frequently than you believe, things go wrong even on airplanes that are
vigilantly maintained. Bottom line, even though you and your mechanic do
everything humanly possible, there is simply no way to assure an
aircraft isn't going to have a problem.
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Old June 5th 07, 09:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Shirl writes:

There are PLENTY of carefully maintained aircraft that have problems and
failures, some resulting in accidents and some not. The concept you
aren't understanding is that mechanical failure is not necessarily an
indication of poor/careless/inadequate maintenance, and in fact, more
frequently than you believe, things go wrong even on airplanes that are
vigilantly maintained. Bottom line, even though you and your mechanic do
everything humanly possible, there is simply no way to assure an
aircraft isn't going to have a problem.


Then it must be a defect in design.
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Old June 5th 07, 09:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skylune
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On Jun 5, 4:27 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Shirl writes:
There are PLENTY of carefully maintained aircraft that have problems and
failures, some resulting in accidents and some not. The concept you
aren't understanding is that mechanical failure is not necessarily an
indication of poor/careless/inadequate maintenance, and in fact, more
frequently than you believe, things go wrong even on airplanes that are
vigilantly maintained. Bottom line, even though you and your mechanic do
everything humanly possible, there is simply no way to assure an
aircraft isn't going to have a problem.


Then it must be a defect in design.


Sorry to jump in here guys.

MX, you are an insufferable fool. Your comments on other threads
regarding housing prices in the US, how a million dollars is not alot
of money, how middle class is shrinking in America, etc are absolutely
hysterical coming from an underemployed Frenchman like you.


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Old June 5th 07, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Skylune writes:

Sorry to jump in here guys.

MX, you are an insufferable fool. Your comments on other threads
regarding housing prices in the US, how a million dollars is not alot
of money, how middle class is shrinking in America, etc are absolutely
hysterical coming from an underemployed Frenchman like you.


Was your mistake deliberate, or just a coincidence?
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Old June 5th 07, 11:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skylune
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On Jun 5, 4:57 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Skylune writes:
Sorry to jump in here guys.


MX, you are an insufferable fool. Your comments on other threads
regarding housing prices in the US, how a million dollars is not alot
of money, how middle class is shrinking in America, etc are absolutely
hysterical coming from an underemployed Frenchman like you.


Was your mistake deliberate, or just a coincidence?


OK, I'll play for a while. I have some free time.

What mistake? Did you obtain gainful employment?

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Old June 5th 07, 11:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Theune
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Skylune wrote:
On Jun 5, 4:57 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Skylune writes:
Sorry to jump in here guys.
MX, you are an insufferable fool. Your comments on other threads
regarding housing prices in the US, how a million dollars is not alot
of money, how middle class is shrinking in America, etc are absolutely
hysterical coming from an underemployed Frenchman like you.

Was your mistake deliberate, or just a coincidence?


OK, I'll play for a while. I have some free time.

What mistake? Did you obtain gainful employment?

I never thought I'd say this this, but don't insult the French by
implying he is one of them. He is just a whining ex-pat American ( or
so he claims )
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Old June 5th 07, 11:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skylune
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On Jun 5, 6:36 pm, John Theune wrote:
Skylune wrote:
On Jun 5, 4:57 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Skylune writes:
Sorry to jump in here guys.
MX, you are an insufferable fool. Your comments on other threads
regarding housing prices in the US, how a million dollars is not alot
of money, how middle class is shrinking in America, etc are absolutely
hysterical coming from an underemployed Frenchman like you.
Was your mistake deliberate, or just a coincidence?


OK, I'll play for a while. I have some free time.


What mistake? Did you obtain gainful employment?


I never thought I'd say this this, but don't insult the French by
implying he is one of them. He is just a whining ex-pat American ( or
so he claims )


I'm an immigrant myself (German), and have no love for French or
German politics. I love my country, and hate things that smack of
socialism (like the FAA).

If he is an ex-pat, and is presently under-employed in France making a
few hundred bucks a week guiding tourists around (as I remember from a
few months ago when Anthony was "outed" by one of the clever pilots
here), why would he remain in France?

Could it be that he is more comfortable there? Underemployed, but
SIMULATING: flying, relationships, economic research, sex (?),
intellectualism, etc. Maybe French government services make it more
comfortable to do this in France. Maybe he views himself as a
misunderstood philosopher, and feels more at home in France than the
burgeious USA?

I don't know. I'll say this. The last episode of the Sopranos occurs
this Sunday. So far, watching the MX series to be the next best
alternative.


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Old June 6th 07, 06:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Skylune writes:

What mistake? Did you obtain gainful employment?


I guess it was an ironic coincidence, then.

Best not to criticize others for a perceived lack of research unless one does
at least as much research oneself.
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Old June 6th 07, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skylune
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On Jun 6, 1:49 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Skylune writes:
What mistake? Did you obtain gainful employment?


I guess it was an ironic coincidence, then.

Best not to criticize others for a perceived lack of research unless one does
at least as much research oneself.


Listen fool: Some of the pilots here with whom I have quarreled with
in the past even acknowledged that I attached references to studies on
things like the FAA funding formula, etc.

You on the other hand just spew trash about anything and everything.

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Old June 7th 07, 12:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Skylune writes:

What mistake? Did you obtain gainful employment?


I guess it was an ironic coincidence, then.

Best not to criticize others for a perceived lack of research unless
one does at least as much research oneself.


I don't need to. I'm the source.


Bertie
 




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