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![]() "Margy Natalie" t wrote I've always wondered if it would be acceptable to provide a stair-chair rather than install a lift. Having a stair-chair available would make access to multiple aircraft affordable. Based on the fact that there was an auditorium added to our school only two years ago, and they used a stair char to change floor levels of about 6 feet, I would say yes. -- Jim in NC |
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![]() "Margy Natalie" wrote in message ... Putting in all the stuff to make it accessible is EXPENSIVE and most museums don't have much $$ (if any). Yeah, but I wonder if it's necessary. OMSI has the submarine Blueback which is open to the public, but there's no way that's wheelchair-accessible. It's a submarine. Similarly, when the warbirds come to town and let people tour them, I don't see wheelchair ramps, nor could I imagine some old vet fitting a walker on a B-17 catwalk. Hmm. Is it really necessary? -c |
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gatt wrote:
Hmm. Is it really necessary? No. The guy at the museum was pulling Jay's legs (both of them), and Jay bought it hook, line and sinker. --Sylvain |
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("Sylvain" wrote)
No. The guy at the museum was pulling Jay's legs (both of them), and Jay bought it hook, line and sinker. Ouch! That's brutal. Either go with: "He took the bait, hook, line and sinker" or run with something (anything) like: "He doesn't have a leg to stand on." Please, please, please, DO NOT mix them! Like I said ....Ouch! Montblack :-) |
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No. The guy at the museum was pulling Jay's legs (both of them),
and Jay bought it hook, line and sinker. You have mistaken me for the OP. Sadly, I've never been to that museum. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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gatt wrote: Hmm. Is it really necessary? No. The guy at the museum was pulling Jay's legs (both of them), and Jay bought it hook, line and sinker. --Sylvain The best is for some reason unknown to me the architect of the Hazy Center designed these really cool ramps that are NOT ADA compliant, so we have these really cool ramps that aren't legal. So, the ramps are labeled "not handicapped accessible" and say where the elevators are. I'm not sure what security is doing now, but they left me alone when a few of my former students showed up and we blew right past the signs and up the ramp (high school students in chairs are just as wild as ambulatory kids if they have the right teachers/parents). The ramps have the correct pitch, but they don't have the appropriate flat areas. Margy |
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![]() "gatt" wrote in message ... "Morgans" wrote in message ... The Spruce Goose is totally interesting to me, for the massive scale, and for the groundbreaking use of new technology. Add to that that I am a woodworker, and that fills out the trifecta. Trivia: I overheard an Evergreen volunteer say that the reason you can't access the cockpit is because it's not handicap-accessible and they don't want to either get sued or modify the airplane to put in an elevator. Got to run around (you don't crawl in the Goose) inside before it was put back together. They asked for volunteers to peel off the white fire-proof coating since they couldn't pressure wash it or steam it off without damaging the wood. Seemed like a great idea. I peeled a little for a minute and only then did I really start to understand how big the airplane is. It would have been worth it, but if I'd have started in 1997 by myself in my spare time I'd still be doing it. Right now, it has an SR-71 sitting under the right wing. The blackbird looks tiny. -c My wife and I visited a couple of weeks ago. Terrific Museum. The SR71 IS small. I'd never seen one up close. The RAM was held on with sheet metal screws and washers. They have their own vineyard, and produce a very good wine. Al G |
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Right now, it has an SR-71 sitting under the right wing. The blackbird
looks tiny. My wife and I visited a couple of weeks ago. Terrific Museum. The SR71 IS small. I'd never seen one up close. Um, the SR-71 is bigger than a World War II bomber, and almost as big as a modern airliner. "Small" it is not. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote: Right now, it has an SR-71 sitting under the right wing. The blackbird looks tiny. My wife and I visited a couple of weeks ago. Terrific Museum. The SR71 IS small. I'd never seen one up close. Um, the SR-71 is bigger than a World War II bomber, and almost as big as a modern airliner. "Small" it is not. It looks small due to the narrow wingspan and small fuselage. The wingspan of an SR-71 is only 20ft more then a Cherokee (55ft vs 35ft). Length is about the only measurement it isn't small in. I remember walking around the one at the Air Force Museum and thinking how small it looked. For comparison: SR-71 B-17 PA-28 ----- ---- ----- Wingspan 55ft 7in 103ft 9in 35ft Height 18ft 6in 19ft 1in 7ft 4in Length 107ft 5in 74ft 4in 23ft 10in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-17_Flying_Fortress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pa-28 (I've actually flown the Warrior pictured in the article. I guess that's worth 15 seconds of internet fame. ![]() John -- John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/ |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... Right now, it has an SR-71 sitting under the right wing. The blackbird looks tiny. My wife and I visited a couple of weeks ago. Terrific Museum. The SR71 IS small. I'd never seen one up close. Um, the SR-71 is bigger than a World War II bomber, and almost as big as a modern airliner. At the Boeing Museum of Flight they have a Blackbird cockpit that you can sit in. All the kids hover around the F-16 cockpit while their fathers sort of stare at the other in something like teary-eyed wonder. I wonder how many fully-grown adults throw tantrums when their wives tell them it's time to get out and let the next guy play. -c |
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