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Scott Peterson wrote:
But he left the ballpark when he tried to go political and engaged in wholesale libel with his "the Guard was a haven for draftdodgers" crap. Wasn't it? That's certainly the way I remember it....and I knew a quite a few people who were in it for exactly that reason. Well, I've got the distinct impression that the period in question is prior to your birth, but let me point out that there is a considerable difference between ANG and Army NG. During the SEA period, a lot of folks sought Guard duty specifically to avoid active Army draft service. But, to stretch the Guard responsibility to fit the mission and extensive training requirements of an ANG pilot is a significant move. Good question. I thought that through the 1980's the chain of command for the NG went to the Governor unless the unless the units had been federalized. The example that comes to mind was Eisenhower doing this to keep NG troops from being used by segratationist governors in the school integration efforts in the mid-1950's. While you are technically correct, in that NG units are under the control of the Governor of the state, there is a parallel chain of command to the NGB and then reporting to the appropriate service CinC and then JCS. While Army Guard units were activated to enforce federal policy and also for disaster relief and riot duty (in '68) the ANG units are much more often activated for federal military service deployed. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (ret) ***"When Thunder Rolled: *** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam" *** from Smithsonian Books ISBN: 1588341038 |
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Ed Rasimus wrote:
Well, I've got the distinct impression that the period in question is prior to your birth, but let me point out that there is a considerable difference between ANG and Army NG. During the SEA period, a lot of folks sought Guard duty specifically to avoid active Army draft service. But, to stretch the Guard responsibility to fit the mission and extensive training requirements of an ANG pilot is a significant move. I don't know why you'd think that. But no, I'm one of the baby boomers. Scott Peterson If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too? |
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![]() the ANG units are much more often activated for federal military service deployed. The New Hampshire Air Guard was, as I recall, called up for a couple weeks every December to fly packages to Vietnam. While this tour of duty would no doubt be sneered at by the Good People who never in their lives put on a uniform, it did serve a purpose. In Vietnam in 1964, I fell into conversation with a C-123 pilot who'd been stationed next door to me at (then) Pease AFB. He'd been flying B-52s (I think) and was really really annoyed when he found himself assigned to an aerial pickup truck in Vietnam. Some of his SAC mates, he said, had gotten out of the service rather than suffer the indignity. But he had concluded that flying for the air force was better than not flying for the air force, so he took the assignment and found himself enjoying it. It ain't how you got there that matters, it's how the do the job once you're there. all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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Cub Driver writes: the ANG units are much more often activated for federal military service deployed. The New Hampshire Air Guard was, as I recall, called up for a couple weeks every December to fly packages to Vietnam. While this tour of duty would no doubt be sneered at by the Good People who never in their lives put on a uniform, it did serve a purpose. I was going to bring this one up, and you beat me to it. Actually, the 157th ATG/MAG (Air Transport Group/Military Airlift Group _was_ flying missions into Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia from about 1963 on. They were flying C-97s, and later, C-124s, out of Grenier Field (MHT), and, later, Pease AFB. They weren't called up, though. They voluntarily placed the unit into the MATS/MAC schedule to fly "for real" airlift missions. Other ANG and Air Force Reserve airlifters did the same thing. ANG crews also ended up doing "Detached Duty" in all manner of, shall we say, "Interesting Places". Fer example, most of the aircraft and crews used by Balair, the Inernational Red Cross, and Joint Church Aid for relief flights into Biafra came from various Air National Guard units, the NH ANG among them. This was ugly, intense duty, and as dangerous as an airlifter could get. (the Kenyan MiGs, which were active and shot down several relief aircraft, were the least of their problems.) -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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