Argument against high gas prices

"BDS" wrote in message
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It is not unethical to sell your product for the highest price possible.

It is if people are going hungry or out of business because of it.

I don't believe that the price is anywhere near as high as it could
actually go before the people doing the complaining
start to think about conservation.

Don't think about recreationalists, think about FBOs, flight instructors,
charter services, independent truckers, couriers, farmers and everybody else
who is suffering because people still make excuses for record profits.

BTW, I suspect that if you had your own business you would sell your
products at the highest price possible too.

Is that what Jesus would do? I wouldn't do it if I was making billions
while my neighbors and my nation suffered.

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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"BDS" wrote in message
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It is not unethical to sell your product for the highest price possible.

It is if people are going hungry or out of business because of it.

I don't believe that the price is anywhere near as high as it could
actually go before the people doing the complaining
start to think about conservation.

Don't think about recreationalists, think about FBOs, flight instructors,
charter services, independent truckers, couriers, farmers and everybody
else who is suffering because people still make excuses for record
profits.

BTW, I suspect that if you had your own business you would sell your
products at the highest price possible too.

Is that what Jesus would do? I wouldn't do it if I was making billions
while my neighbors and my nation suffered.

YOUR NATION ISN'T SUFFERING!

Some people are suffering, other's aren't. If everyone had a "Mr. Fusion"
powering their cars and planes tomorrow, would that be a good thing? Think
of all the suffering of the gas station owner, FBO, etc. There are always
winners and losers. Any system that attempts to make sure there aren't
losers, keeps other people from being winners. And the funny thing under
such systems, is that even in an absence of winners, there will still be
losers.

"Ken Finney" wrote in message
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Is that what Jesus would do? I wouldn't do it if I was making billions
while my neighbors and my nation suffered.

YOUR NATION ISN'T SUFFERING!

Ah. Okay, so everybody's hollering about the price of gasoline because
there's nothing better to do. Thanks for clearing that up.


Some people are suffering, other's aren't. If everyone had a "Mr. Fusion"
powering their cars and planes tomorrow, would that be a good thing?
Think of all the suffering of the gas station owner

You don't think gas station owners are suffering right now?

FBO, etc.

You don't think FBOs are suffering right now?

And the funny thing under such systems, is that even in an absence of
winners, there will still be losers.

The oil industry is making record profits in the history of the world. All
anybody is asking them to do is not make so much so that America isn't the
loser.
The oil industry is never the winner.

-c

"gatt" wrote

Ah. Okay, so everybody's hollering about the price of gasoline because
there's nothing better to do. Thanks for clearing that up.

They complain, but they don't curtail their use much, if at all. What does
that tell you?

You don't think gas station owners are suffering right now?

Maybe, maybe not. It might be time for some of them to consider
alternatives if they are. However, since consumption hasn't gone down much
I suspect the gas station owners are doing just fine, thank you.

The oil industry is making record profits in the history of the world.
All
anybody is asking them to do is not make so much so that America isn't the
loser.

Their shareholders love them for it. You might even know some of the people
who are sharing in those record profits - some of them are probably your
neighbors, fellow pilots, and maybe even an FBO owner or two.

BDS

"BDS" wrote in message
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"gatt" wrote

Ah. Okay, so everybody's hollering about the price of gasoline because
there's nothing better to do. Thanks for clearing that up.

They complain, but they don't curtail their use much, if at all. What
does
that tell you?

Not as much as this. The sun doesn't rise and fall on recreational gas
users:
"Meanwhile, the cost of diesel fuel continues to head upward, with a gallon
costing on average $2.11 along the West Coast this week. The U.S. average
was about $1.72 a gallon. In West Coast states, diesel has increased about 9
cents a gallon in the past week and about 51 cents a gallon from a year ago.

Trucking companies are feeling the pinch.

"It's eating them alive," said Jim Tutton, vice president of the Washington
Trucking Associations, a Federal Way-based trade group that represents about
900 members, with 70 percent of them in the Puget Sound region.

Long-haulers are feeling more pain, but rising fuel prices also hurt
short-haulers, said Ed Vander Pol, president of Oak Harbor Freight Lines, an
Auburn-based trucking company with about 500 trucks rolling in five Western
states.

Vander Pol said his fuel costs for January and February of this year were $1
million. That was about $35,000 more than the company spent during first two
months of 2003, based on the same amount of revenue. Vander Pol said his
company is tacking on an 8 percent fuel surcharge, the highest he has ever
charged.

"With the margins we have, there's no way we can swallow that. We have to
pass it on," said Vander Pol, whose trucks haul clothing for retailers, such
as Gap, and also haul tires, building materials and other products for other
customers.
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/s...26/story2.html


The oil industry is making record profits in the history of the world.
All anybody is asking them to do is not make so much so that America
isn't the
loser.

Their shareholders love them for it.

"All anybody is asking them to do is not make so much so that America isn't
the loser."

I find your prioritization of shareholders over Americans illuminating.

-c

"gatt" wrote

I find your prioritization of shareholders over Americans illuminating.

Weren't you the one complaining about personal attacks? - and then this?

Look, many of the shareholders are Americans, probably millions of them.
Like I said before, it's not the Evil Oil Empire, it's your friends and
neighbors. If you own any mutual funds you probably have stock in some of
these companies yourself.

Did you notice in the article you quoted that the truckers are passing the
increased fuel costs along to their customers? That being the case, how is
the cost of fuel eating them alive?

Business is business. If you want to be successful you need to realize that
the price of a product is not determined by what it costs to make it.

BDS

"gatt" wrote

"Meanwhile, the cost of diesel fuel continues to head upward, with a
gallon costing on average $2.11 along the West Coast this week. The U.S.
average was about $1.72 a gallon. In West Coast states, diesel has
increased about 9 cents a gallon in the past week and about 51 cents a
gallon from a year ago.

Trucking companies are feeling the pinch.

Is diesel fuel that much cheaper at truck stops, and such?

I saw diesel at wally world (about the cheapest place for gas around here)
just a day or two ago, and it was $2.78.
--
Jim in NC

gatt wrote:

The oil industry is making record profits in the history of the
world. All anybody is asking them to do is not make so much so that
America isn't the loser.
The oil industry is never the winner.

-c

The point is they aren't asking them in the right way. All they have to do
is reduce demand.

gatt wrote:

The oil industry is making record profits in the history of the
world. All anybody is asking them to do is not make so much so that
America isn't the loser.

Do you know the difference between a "profit" and a "profit margin"?

Or do you just puke back the MSM/Public School drivel?

"Matt Barrow" wrote

Or do you just puke back the MSM/Public School drivel?

Seems like you are the one fixated on blaming the Publik Skools for all of
the problems in our country.

You need to see some help about this problem.
--
Jim in NC