Great aviation museum

Sylvain wrote:
gatt wrote:


Hmm. Is it really necessary?


No. The guy at the museum was pulling Jay's legs (both of them),
and Jay bought it hook, line and sinker.

--Sylvain
The best is for some reason unknown to me the architect of the Hazy
Center designed these really cool ramps that are NOT ADA compliant, so
we have these really cool ramps that aren't legal. So, the ramps are
labeled "not handicapped accessible" and say where the elevators are.
I'm not sure what security is doing now, but they left me alone when a
few of my former students showed up and we blew right past the signs and
up the ramp (high school students in chairs are just as wild as
ambulatory kids if they have the right teachers/parents). The ramps
have the correct pitch, but they don't have the appropriate flat areas.

Margy

Margy Natalie wrote:

we have these really cool ramps that aren't legal. So, the ramps are
labeled "not handicapped accessible"

as an additional technical point: ramps are *wheelchair* accessible;
only a minority of handicapped folks use wheelchairs; accessibility
requirements between handicaps vary and can actually be mutually
incompatible: I hate ramps, they make my life more complicated and
dangerous, and I always go for the stairs to the consternation of
whoever is in charge (I used to do that when using a wheelchair too,
as it is generally faster / shorter); and unless they are MDs with
the proper qualifications -- and even then -- who are they to say that
your students or I are handicapped anyway? use the darn ramps if they
work for you.

--Sylvain

Sylvain wrote:
Margy Natalie wrote:


we have these really cool ramps that aren't legal. So, the ramps are
labeled "not handicapped accessible"


as an additional technical point: ramps are *wheelchair* accessible;
only a minority of handicapped folks use wheelchairs; accessibility
requirements between handicaps vary and can actually be mutually
incompatible: I hate ramps, they make my life more complicated and
dangerous, and I always go for the stairs to the consternation of
whoever is in charge (I used to do that when using a wheelchair too,
as it is generally faster / shorter); and unless they are MDs with
the proper qualifications -- and even then -- who are they to say that
your students or I are handicapped anyway? use the darn ramps if they
work for you.

--Sylvain
That was my feeling :-), but the law states something like 12" per 2"
rise with a level area every XX (can't remember) feet. Everyone was
using them and having a great time until someone (not sure if otherly
abled or not) decided to inform the museum they weren't "up to code"
with ADA so the signs went up.

I'd love to chat with you about possible accomodations off line some
where, just use my first name at my first and last names.com

Margy

"Margy Natalie" wrote

That was my feeling :-), but the law states something like 12" per 2" rise
with a level area every XX (can't remember) feet.

For new construction, every 12 inches can rise no more than 1 inch. No ramp
may rise more than 30 inches, without a landing.
--
Jim in NC