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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 04:44:26 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:22:36 -0000, wrote in
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Well, now these young men get to find out what its like in an ass-
pounding prison...

So, in your mind the just punishment for burglary is anal rape?


Works for me. If they don't want to get punished, they shouldn't do the crime.

Why isn't incarceration alone fitting punishment for burglary? Why
don't you see anal rape as falling under the "cruel and unusual" group
of impermissible punishments?

I have zero empathy for the perps.

I am also opposed to crime, but it is beneath the dignity of an
enlightened nation to condone barbaric practices.

How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?

How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?

No, that's too harsh. Just being sent home would be good enough for
me. Heck, I'd be happy if anyone in law enforcement even cared enough
to SCARE 'em a little. But that won't happen.

Back to this thread -- congrats on busting the punks! Personally, I'd
be in favor of the death penalty for crimes of this nature -- but
instead maybe they'll at least do some hard time and have to pay some
serious fines.

However, since they don't have any prior criminal records, they'll
probably just get "probation" and be right back at it within a few
months...

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Larry Dighera wrote:
Why isn't incarceration alone fitting punishment for burglary? Why
don't you see anal rape as falling under the "cruel and unusual" group
of impermissible punishments?


It is my understanding this is not unusual at all in today's jails and prisons.
All the more reason not to do anything to get thrown into one.


How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?


You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

("Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote)
You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?


"Joey, you like movies about gladiators?"

"You ever been in a cockpit before?"
"No sir, I've never been up in a plane before."
"You ever ...seen a grown man naked?"

"Joey, did you ever hang around a gymnasium?"

"Joey, have you ever been ...in a, aTurkish prison?"


A: Someone had to do it ....!
B: (NAC) Necessary Aviation Content


P-Mont

One of my all-time favorite movies... "Oh stewardess... I speak jive.."
:-)

Jon

Montblack wrote:
("Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote)

You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?



"Joey, you like movies about gladiators?"

"You ever been in a cockpit before?"
"No sir, I've never been up in a plane before."
"You ever ...seen a grown man naked?"

"Joey, did you ever hang around a gymnasium?"

"Joey, have you ever been ...in a, aTurkish prison?"


A: Someone had to do it ....!
B: (NAC) Necessary Aviation Content


P-Mont

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:28:24 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
Why isn't incarceration alone fitting punishment for burglary? Why
don't you see anal rape as falling under the "cruel and unusual" group
of impermissible punishments?


It is my understanding this is not unusual at all in today's jails and prisons.
All the more reason not to do anything to get thrown into one.


So you think the US military's behavior in Abu Grave was appropriate?
You have no respect for the rule of law.


How do you feel about the millions of undocumented immigrants who
illegally enter our nation? Do you think they should be lined up,
bent over and raped? Is that the kind of nation you'd be proud to be
part of?


You certainly seem to be fixated on rape. Any particular reason?

I'm reacting to this crass statement:

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:22:36 -0000, wrote in
.com:

Well, now these young men get to find out what its like in an
ass-pounding prison...

Please try to keep up with the discussion.

Condoning lawlessness within the nation's prison systems is
reprehensible as it condones crime not the rule of law. Can't you see
that?

The intent of punishment for criminal behavior should be
rehabilitation, not vengeance. I believe restitution should play a
large role in sentencing. That way a criminal sees that s/he does not
benefit from their criminal acts, but compensates victims instead.

The chances of rehabilitating a first time offender through brutality
are nil. It only fosters resentment not contrition.

Of course, our privatized penal system offers no incentive to
rehabilitate criminals. Quite the contrary, it rewards contractors
like Wackenhut* for each inmate.


* http://www.g4s.com/usw/usw-services-government.htm

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

Condoning lawlessness within the nation's prison systems is
reprehensible as it condones crime not the rule of law.

I agree.

The intent of punishment for criminal behavior should be
rehabilitation, not vengeance.

Punishment is not necessarily vengeance.

Rehabilitation is not vengeance.

Tossing someone in jail also (should) have a side-effect of protecting
society from a criminal (at least until rehabilitated).

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:46:29 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote in
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

Condoning lawlessness within the nation's prison systems is
reprehensible as it condones crime not the rule of law.

I agree.


At last, the voice of reason. Thank you.

The intent of punishment for criminal behavior should be
rehabilitation, not vengeance.

Punishment is not necessarily vengeance.

Rehabilitation is not vengeance.


But intentionally permitting the anal rape of inmates to intensify the
repugnance of incarceration is a form of vengeance, IMO.

Tossing someone in jail also (should) have a side-effect of protecting
society from a criminal (at least until rehabilitated).

If the convicted criminal is removed from society and jailed, the
public is protected from that criminal until s/he is released. Or am
I overlooking something?

In article ,
Bob Noel wrote:

Tossing someone in jail also (should) have a side-effect of protecting
society from a criminal (at least until rehabilitated).

Are you using Paris Hilton as an example?

john smith wrote:
In article ,
Bob Noel wrote:

Tossing someone in jail also (should) have a side-effect of protecting
society from a criminal (at least until rehabilitated).

Are you using Paris Hilton as an example?


For the next 5 weeks or so we won't have to worry about meeting her on a dark
highway after she's had a snoot full. After that, who knows? With any luck she
will have become educated to the consequences of ignoring the DUI statutes... or
the judge.

None of us stays young and stupid forever. She could change.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com