Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?

writes:

If the turn is coordinated, there is no "sideways" force to perceive as
that is the definition of a cooridinated turn.

False. The aircraft is being accelerated to one side. If you keep your head
level with the horizon, you'll perceive the turn as a movement to one side.

The only thing the human senses will perceive is an increase in apparent
weight which will depend on the turn rate.

Only if your head is level with the wings, instead of the horizon.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

If the turn is coordinated, there is no "sideways" force to perceive as
that is the definition of a cooridinated turn.

False. The aircraft is being accelerated to one side. If you keep your head
level with the horizon, you'll perceive the turn as a movement to one side.

The only thing the human senses will perceive is an increase in apparent
weight which will depend on the turn rate.

Only if your head is level with the wings, instead of the horizon.

What is the ball in a turn and bank indicator or a turn coordinator?

It is a damped pendulum attached firmly to the aircraft panel and
level with the wings.

Where is the ball in coordinated flight?

It is centered.

What does that mean?

That there is no lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular
to the wings of the aircraft.

What does Mxsmanic's answer mean?

That the babbling, childish, idiot doesn't know high school physics, much
less how airplanes fly and has the unmitigated audacity to try to
tell real pilots how to fly.

What is the orientation of Mxsmanic's head?

Firmly planted up his ass.


--
Jim Pennino

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writes:

That there is no lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular
to the wings of the aircraft.

There is a lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular to the horizon,
however, and so if one keeps his head perpendicular to the horizon in a turn,
he will perceive the turn as a lateral movement (which it is).

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

That there is no lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular
to the wings of the aircraft.

There is a lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular to the
horizon, however, and so if one keeps his head perpendicular to the
horizon in a turn, he will perceive the turn as a lateral movement
(which it is).

Nope, wrong as always, not that it makes any differnce to you, of
course.

you're a fjukkwit and will die a fjukkwit.


Bertie

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

That there is no lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular
to the wings of the aircraft.

There is a lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular to the horizon,
however, and so if one keeps his head perpendicular to the horizon in a turn,
he will perceive the turn as a lateral movement (which it is).

You aren't attached to the horizon while in an aircraft in flight,
simulator boy, you are attached to the aircraft.

The only force in coordinated flight is straight down, where "down"
is perpendicular to the wings.

Yet one more thing your extensive MSFS education failed to teach you.


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Jim Pennino

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writes:

You aren't attached to the horizon while in an aircraft in flight,
simulator boy, you are attached to the aircraft.

You aren't attached to either, and you have freedom of movement that allows
you to align your head with the aircraft or with the horizon, in anything less
than a 90-degree bank.

The only force in coordinated flight is straight down, where "down"
is perpendicular to the wings.

Then if your head is not perpendicular to the wings, you will perceive a force
that is not straight down. QED.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

You aren't attached to the horizon while in an aircraft in flight,
simulator boy, you are attached to the aircraft.

You aren't attached to either, and you have freedom of movement that allows
you to align your head with the aircraft or with the horizon, in anything less
than a 90-degree bank.

If you aren't attached to the aircraft while in flight, you have bigger
issues than head tilt.

The only force in coordinated flight is straight down, where "down"
is perpendicular to the wings.

Then if your head is not perpendicular to the wings, you will perceive a force
that is not straight down. QED.

Nonsense.

This is no different than standing still on the ground and tilting your
head.

When I do that I feel nothing other than I'm tilting my head.

Down is still down.

Your brain wiring may, however, be different than the rest of the
human race.

--
Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

You aren't attached to the horizon while in an aircraft in flight,
simulator boy, you are attached to the aircraft.

You aren't attached to either,

Well, you aren't attached to earth in any significant fashion anyway..


Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

That there is no lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular
to the wings of the aircraft.

There is a lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular to the
horizon,
however, and so if one keeps his head perpendicular to the horizon in a
turn,
he will perceive the turn as a lateral movement (which it is).

You're clueless.

No wonder you never understood flying back through your own wake on a 360.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

writes:

If the turn is coordinated, there is no "sideways" force to perceive
as that is the definition of a cooridinated turn.

False. The aircraft is being accelerated to one side.

Nope, wrong again, moron.


Bertie