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Old June 11th 07, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y
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Default recording of birth certificate and passport numbers

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:46:51 -0400, john smith
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A copy of my birth certificate and my passport?


- OR - not - and -.

The flight school is required to keep a photo copy. I had to cough up
a passport to get my TSA logbook endorsement two years ago. The
endorsement includes my passport number.

Are CFI's required to be bonded now?
This is a requirement ripe for identiy theft.


You have a point.
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Old June 11th 07, 06:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default recording of birth certificate and passport numbers

On Jun 10, 4:07 pm, B A R R Y wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:46:51 -0400, john smith
wrote:



A copy of my birth certificate and my passport?


- OR - not - and -.

The flight school is required to keep a photo copy. I had to cough up
a passport to get my TSA logbook endorsement two years ago. The
endorsement includes my passport number.

Are CFI's required to be bonded now?
This is a requirement ripe for identiy theft.


You have a point.


That one of the reasons I choose to not keep copies of this paperwork
and instead just make the endorsement that I've seen it. The whole
thing makes little sense. Some FBOs are not accepting B-certificates
as well and require passports (ref: allATP)

-Robert

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Old June 11th 07, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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Default recording of birth certificate and passport numbers

On Jun 11, 1:18 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Jun 10, 4:07 pm, B A R R Y wrote:





On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:46:51 -0400, john smith
wrote:


A copy of my birth certificate and my passport?


- OR - not - and -.


The flight school is required to keep a photo copy. I had to cough up
a passport to get my TSA logbook endorsement two years ago. The
endorsement includes my passport number.


Are CFI's required to be bonded now?
This is a requirement ripe for identiy theft.


You have a point.


That one of the reasons I choose to not keep copies of this paperwork
and instead just make the endorsement that I've seen it. The whole
thing makes little sense. Some FBOs are not accepting B-certificates
as well and require passports (ref: allATP)



The regs don't say that you need a birth certificate AND a passport.
These FBOs are making up their own rules above and beyond the TSA
requirements, and in my opinion, they are worse than the TSA people.

Just out of curiosity, can anyone demand to see your passport in order
to offer services? I thought only government reps or law enforcement
can demand to see them (even that I am not sure unless you are
crossing the border). It's like having to give your social security
number to at the laundromat.



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Old June 11th 07, 07:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mark T. Dame
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Default recording of birth certificate and passport numbers

B A R R Y wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:46:51 -0400, john smith
wrote:
A copy of my birth certificate and my passport?


- OR - not - and -.


Passport -OR-
Birth Certificate -AND- photo ID (presumably a drivers license or other
state ID; your amusement park season pass doesn't qualify).


Are CFI's required to be bonded now?
This is a requirement ripe for identiy theft.


You have a point.


I don't think it says you can't black out the stuff that would open you
up to liability (SSN, birthday, address...). That way if anyone breaks
into your files, the copies are worthless.


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