Groom Lake/area 51 Migs from 70s info needed

From a Google seach on "Red Hat Squadron"...

The Red Hat Squadron is the name given to the fliers of capture/stolen
Soviet aircraft. The Red Hat Squadron operates out of Area 51. It is
speculated they use Hanger 5 at the Area 51, Groom Lake airbase. Resulting
from the foreign material exploitation program named "Red Hat", the Red Hat
Squadron started in the 1960's and has been attributed to the improved
fighter kill ratios in the Viet Nam, the Persian Gulf and Serbia conflicts.
Soviet aircraft in the Red Hat Squadron include the Mig 17, Mig-19, Mig-21,
Mig-23, Mig-27 and Su-27.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"DunxC" wrote in message
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Hi,

For info, in 1969 the USN flew 'Have Drill' missions with a MiG-19
against
two
loaned ANG F-86Hs. Guess that puts a date for the start of the
programme.

BTW - isn't there an ex-Red Hat MiG-21 in the USAFM?

Red hats are GE, it is an engine thing.

"breyfogle" wrote in message
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From a Google seach on "Red Hat Squadron"...

The Red Hat Squadron is the name given to the fliers of capture/stolen
Soviet aircraft. The Red Hat Squadron operates out of Area 51. It is
speculated they use Hanger 5 at the Area 51, Groom Lake airbase.
Resulting
from the foreign material exploitation program named "Red Hat", the Red
Hat
Squadron started in the 1960's and has been attributed to the improved
fighter kill ratios in the Viet Nam, the Persian Gulf and Serbia
conflicts.
Soviet aircraft in the Red Hat Squadron include the Mig 17, Mig-19,
Mig-21,
Mig-23, Mig-27 and Su-27.

We had red hats at north base at Eddies, they are GE and secret (civilians).
What you dug up on google is what some nut wrote to a URL. They once did
quite a bit of traveling, but they are no more.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"DunxC" wrote in message
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Hi,

For info, in 1969 the USN flew 'Have Drill' missions with a MiG-19
against
two
loaned ANG F-86Hs. Guess that puts a date for the start of the
programme.

BTW - isn't there an ex-Red Hat MiG-21 in the USAFM?

Red hats are GE, it is an engine thing.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ...

We had red hats at north base at Eddies, they are GE and secret (civilians).
What you dug up on google is what some nut wrote to a URL.

Well that certainly adds credibility to what some nut (you) wrote to a
newsgroup. I have a red hat at home that has the GE logo on it - does
that make me a secret civilian?

GregD

"GregD" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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We had red hats at north base at Eddies, they are GE and secret
(civilians).
What you dug up on google is what some nut wrote to a URL.

Well that certainly adds credibility to what some nut (you) wrote to a
newsgroup. I have a red hat at home that has the GE logo on it - does
that make me a secret civilian?

Only if you woked on north Base at Edwards and not for JPL.

breyfogle wrote:

Soviet aircraft in the Red Hat Squadron include the Mig 17, Mig-19, Mig-21,
Mig-23, Mig-27 and Su-27.

Where did they get Su-27 from?


Qman

In article , jan@artecdesign_punkt_ee says...
breyfogle wrote:

Soviet aircraft in the Red Hat Squadron include the Mig 17, Mig-19, Mig-21,
Mig-23, Mig-27 and Su-27.

Where did they get Su-27 from?


www.ebay.com

Seems some russian airbase needed the cash to turn the lights back on.....



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"Qman" jan@artecdesign_punkt_ee wrote in message
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breyfogle wrote:

Soviet aircraft in the Red Hat Squadron include the Mig 17, Mig-19,
Mig-21,
Mig-23, Mig-27 and Su-27.

Where did they get Su-27 from?

The SU-27 was exported as was the Mig-29. They weren't quite up to par with
the old Soviets Version but still a pretty darned good Fighter Platform. I
am unsure what the differences between the Export and the Non Export of the
SU-27.

Daryl Hunt wrote:

Where did they get Su-27 from?


The SU-27 was exported as was the Mig-29.

Mig-29 is another story, US even bought officially a batch of them from
Moldova some time ago. But when did they get their hands on Su-27?


Qman