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Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.



 
 
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Old June 15th 07, 12:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
george
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

On Jun 15, 10:29 am, Jim Stewart wrote:
wrote:
Hang on, let's keep things simple:


1. If I enter a coordinated turn, I experience an increase in Gs.
2. If I enter a descent, I experience a decrease in Gs.


If I do these two things at the same time, it is possible to enter a
descending turn without any change in Gs. Just as long as I
continously feed in enough down elevator to offset the increasing Gs
from the turn, the force on the airframe and me, the pilot, will stay
at 1 G.


Isn't there some sinister name for this
when it happens to a non-IFR pilot in a cloud?


Graveyard spiral dive

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Old June 15th 07, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

george writes:

Graveyard spiral dive


Which probably isn't a coincidence, since pilots likely get into these
precisely because they maintain "normal" G forces.
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Old June 15th 07, 05:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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george writes:

Graveyard spiral dive


Which probably isn't a coincidence, since pilots likely get into these
precisely because they maintain "normal" G forces.


Nope, wrong again, fjukktard.

Bertie
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Old June 15th 07, 09:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
george
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

On Jun 15, 4:42 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
Graveyard spiral dive


Which probably isn't a coincidence, since pilots likely get into these
precisely because they maintain "normal" G forces.


Berties right!
You are every thing he says..
FYI a noninstument rated pilot entering IFR conditions has about 90
seconds of life remaining.
The resulting high speed spiral dive is a result losing all visual
references and becoming disorientated in cloud...


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Old June 15th 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
mike regish
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

Thought it was 158 seconds before he loses orientation and then whatever it
takes to crash into the hard edge of the sky.

mike

"george" wrote in message
oups.com...
Berties right!
You are every thing he says..
FYI a noninstument rated pilot entering IFR conditions has about 90
seconds of life remaining.
The resulting high speed spiral dive is a result losing all visual
references and becoming disorientated in cloud...




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Old June 15th 07, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

mike regish writes:

Thought it was 158 seconds before he loses orientation and then whatever it
takes to crash into the hard edge of the sky.


I recall it being 132.44 seconds.
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Old June 16th 07, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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mike regish writes:

Thought it was 158 seconds before he loses orientation and then
whatever it takes to crash into the hard edge of the sky.


I recall it being 132.44 seconds.


You're a tit.

Oh wait, tit's are useful.

My mistake.


Bertie
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Old June 16th 07, 03:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
El Maximo
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
mike regish writes:

Thought it was 158 seconds before he loses orientation and then whatever
it
takes to crash into the hard edge of the sky.


I recall it being 132.44 seconds.


At least you're consistent. (Wrong, but consistent)


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Old June 16th 07, 11:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
mike regish
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Default Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

Yeah. That 100th of a second is really relevant.

mike

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
mike regish writes:

Thought it was 158 seconds before he loses orientation and then whatever
it
takes to crash into the hard edge of the sky.


I recall it being 132.44 seconds.



 




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