Myth: 1 G barrel rolls are impossible.

Of course it is, and in this trivial case I just calculated how far
one must travel in the 10 seconds of the track to have the earth curve
away 1600 feet.

Increase the roll rate -- jets can roll really quickly -- and the
speed starts dropping to 3 or 4 mach.

On Jun 15, 9:12 am, "El Maximo" wrote:
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I can't believe I took the time to do this.

If you started at abaout 18000 miles an hour (you had better be pretty
high!) when you flew this path you'd end up level with the horizon.

It's called orbital velocity

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/satellite3.htm



I think this is out of the range of most general avaition airplanes.
The neat thing is, though, if you wanted to have a real aerobatic
flight experience on a simulator, this is the one to try. Just create
a craft with the ability to go that high, that fast, with thrusters
than could do this thing. Why, you could pour coffee into a cup and
claim to have the same effects in the simulation as a real pilot would
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Here's a very realizable one g roll for any airplane -- it just
depends on one's frame of reference. I'll choose the sun, and get a
slow 1 G barrel roll with an 8000 mile diameter in 24 hours. Depending
on the direction the airplane is tied down, it could be backwards.

On Jun 15, 9:20 am, wrote:
Of course it is, and in this trivial case I just calculated how far
one must travel in the 10 seconds of the track to have the earth curve
away 1600 feet.

Increase the roll rate -- jets can roll really quickly -- and the
speed starts dropping to 3 or 4 mach.

On Jun 15, 9:12 am, "El Maximo" wrote:



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oups.com...

I can't believe I took the time to do this.

If you started at abaout 18000 miles an hour (you had better be pretty
high!) when you flew this path you'd end up level with the horizon.

It's called orbital velocity

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/satellite3.htm

I think this is out of the range of most general avaition airplanes.
The neat thing is, though, if you wanted to have a real aerobatic
flight experience on a simulator, this is the one to try. Just create
a craft with the ability to go that high, that fast, with thrusters
than could do this thing. Why, you could pour coffee into a cup and
claim to have the same effects in the simulation as a real pilot would
have in the craft.- Hide quoted text -

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Here's a very realizable one g roll for any airplane -- it just
depends on one's frame of reference. I'll choose the sun, and get a
slow 1 G barrel roll with an 8000 mile diameter in 24 hours. Depending
on the direction the airplane is tied down, it could be backwards.

MX could even 'fly' that one g

And he could report the very same sensations actual pilots feel.

As a matter of fact, I flew that barrel roll once in the past 24
hours, at 1 g actual.

On Jun 15, 10:06 am, "El Maximo" wrote:
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ps.com...

Here's a very realizable one g roll for any airplane -- it just
depends on one's frame of reference. I'll choose the sun, and get a
slow 1 G barrel roll with an 8000 mile diameter in 24 hours. Depending
on the direction the airplane is tied down, it could be backwards.

MX could even 'fly' that one g