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Old June 23rd 07, 06:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
SkyDaddy
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Have you found all your shirt buttons yet? Hope they didn't do any
damage when they popped off, papa!

On Jun 22, 10:14 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
My son's first flight lesson came off as planned today,


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Old June 23rd 07, 02:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Have you found all your shirt buttons yet? Hope they didn't do any
damage when they popped off, papa!


Don't worry -- kids have a way of bringing you back down to earth.

Just a few hours after his lesson he was lambasting me for not
teaching him to "lead his turns with the rudder". I tried to tell
him that I was trying to keep it simple for him, that he'd been flying
with me since before his feet even reached the pedals, and that the
Cherokee really doesn't need rudder for standard turns -- but he
wouldn't buy it...

;-)

Five inches of rain here overnight, with more to come. I'll be amazed
if he gets a lesson in today.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old June 23rd 07, 03:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article .com,
Jay Honeck wrote:

Just a few hours after his lesson he was lambasting me for not
teaching him to "lead his turns with the rudder".


eh?

You need to use rudder to lead turns in a Cherokee?

I only flew a C-150 once, did most of my primary in a C-172,
and don't remember my CFI telling me to lead my turns.

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Old June 23rd 07, 03:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob,

At least he has a CFI who knows the word "rudder".

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old June 23rd 07, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

At least he has a CFI who knows the word "rudder".


I'm not sure how to take your reply...

Are there CFI's that don't know the word "rudder"? am
I fortunate to have had some pretty good instructors?

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Old June 23rd 07, 08:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob,

Are there CFI's that don't know the word "rudder"? am
I fortunate to have had some pretty good instructors?


I'm trying to say that rudder usage is often undertaught.

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Old June 23rd 07, 11:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

Are there CFI's that don't know the word "rudder"? am
I fortunate to have had some pretty good instructors?


I'm trying to say that rudder usage is often undertaught.


roger.

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Old June 23rd 07, 04:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Noel wrote:


I only flew a C-150 once, did most of my primary in a C-172,
and don't remember my CFI telling me to lead my turns.


You didn't use rudder for your turns in a 172? I learned in a 172, and
IIRC a turn without rudder was uncoordinated.
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Old June 23rd 07, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I only flew a C-150 once, did most of my primary in a C-172,
and don't remember my CFI telling me to lead my turns.


You didn't use rudder for your turns in a 172? I learned in a 172, and
IIRC a turn without rudder was uncoordinated.


Joe's instructor flies primarily tail-wheel aircraft. His main ride
is a 1929 Travel Air -- so you KNOW he knows what a rudder is for.

He thinks tricycle gear aircraft aren't the best to train in -- but
the only tail-dragger available for rent on the field is a Citabria,
and it's not available for primary flight instruction.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old June 24th 07, 06:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

He thinks tricycle gear aircraft aren't the best to train in -- but
the only tail-dragger available for rent on the field is a Citabria,
and it's not available for primary flight instruction.


How come you are not having him learn in Atlas? Gas consumption so much
more that owning the craft wouldn't make up for renting?
--
Jim in NC


 




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