Cessna LSA -- Good Luck if you want one

On 2007-06-22 17:07:39 -0700, "Kyle Boatright" said:

I, for one, wish them all the luck in the world. We desperately need a
modern training airplane that will bring in new blood to aviation, and this
one might be it. I swear that I've been the youngest guy in my EAA chapter
and at my home field (home to 100+ airplanes) for nearly 15 years. I'm
42...

The lack of new pilots is going to bring on the end of GA, or at least the
portion of GA that flies behind a propeller.

KB

True. But Cessna's factory is capable of producing 600 planes a year --
far less than the demand. And there is no sign of them planning to
build a new factory. Cessna just does not seem to have the vision
needed to lead a GA recovery. And give me a break -- the engine on this
thing was designed in 1945! Is this the great vision for the future?

Cessna likes the status quo. They sell out all their next year's
production by the end of October. No one has to do any planning or real
marketing. They just keep producing the same few hundred planes every
year. The LSA will be built at the expense of the current lineup. If
you think it is hard to get a 172 or a 182 or a 206 now, wait until
next year. The production of all those planes has been reduced to a
single line, down from five. The Mustang gets the rest of the floor
space, with a little allocated to the LSA and (maybe) the next
generation.



"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007062111541237709-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
Cessna is rationing their LSA very strictly. Each dealer gets exactly one!
If you want a Cessna LSA you AND your dealer, apparently, have to go to
Oshkosh with a $10,000 deposit one week before the show and meet with a
Cessna representative. There are no hotel rooms available and Cessna will
not provide you with one, so you are on your own there. Cessna says the
LSA will be less than $100,000.

For your deposit you get on a list for delivery, perhaps in 2008.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007062306365250073-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
On 2007-06-22 17:07:39 -0700, "Kyle Boatright"
said:

I, for one, wish them all the luck in the world. We desperately need a
modern training airplane that will bring in new blood to aviation, and
this
one might be it. I swear that I've been the youngest guy in my EAA
chapter
and at my home field (home to 100+ airplanes) for nearly 15 years. I'm
42...

The lack of new pilots is going to bring on the end of GA, or at least
the
portion of GA that flies behind a propeller.

KB

True. But Cessna's factory is capable of producing 600 planes a year --
far less than the demand. And there is no sign of them planning to build a
new factory. Cessna just does not seem to have the vision needed to lead a
GA recovery. And give me a break -- the engine on this thing was designed
in 1945! Is this the great vision for the future?

Cessna likes the status quo. They sell out all their next year's
production by the end of October. No one has to do any planning or real
marketing. They just keep producing the same few hundred planes every
year. The LSA will be built at the expense of the current lineup. If you
think it is hard to get a 172 or a 182 or a 206 now, wait until next year.
The production of all those planes has been reduced to a single line, down
from five. The Mustang gets the rest of the floor space, with a little
allocated to the LSA and (maybe) the next generation.

Let me see if I have this correct. Cessna has been in business since 1927,
has been solvent all 80 years, has built more airplanes than anyone else,
builds the worlds most popular airplane, builds the most popular corporate
jet, demand exceeds production capacity but they don't know what they are
doing. I would think most companies would live to have such problems.

On 2007-06-23 21:24:47 -0700, "Dave Stadt" said:


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007062306365250073-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
On 2007-06-22 17:07:39 -0700, "Kyle Boatright"
said:

I, for one, wish them all the luck in the world. We desperately need a
modern training airplane that will bring in new blood to aviation, and
this
one might be it. I swear that I've been the youngest guy in my EAA
chapter
and at my home field (home to 100+ airplanes) for nearly 15 years. I'm
42...

The lack of new pilots is going to bring on the end of GA, or at least
the
portion of GA that flies behind a propeller.

KB

True. But Cessna's factory is capable of producing 600 planes a year --
far less than the demand. And there is no sign of them planning to build a
new factory. Cessna just does not seem to have the vision needed to lead a
GA recovery. And give me a break -- the engine on this thing was designed
in 1945! Is this the great vision for the future?

Cessna likes the status quo. They sell out all their next year's
production by the end of October. No one has to do any planning or real
marketing. They just keep producing the same few hundred planes every
year. The LSA will be built at the expense of the current lineup. If you
think it is hard to get a 172 or a 182 or a 206 now, wait until next year.
The production of all those planes has been reduced to a single line, down
from five. The Mustang gets the rest of the floor space, with a little
allocated to the LSA and (maybe) the next generation.

Let me see if I have this correct. Cessna has been in business since 1927,
has been solvent all 80 years, has built more airplanes than anyone else,
builds the worlds most popular airplane, builds the most popular corporate
jet, demand exceeds production capacity but they don't know what they are
doing. I would think most companies would live to have such problems.



Oh, I never said they don't know what they are doing.

It is just that what they are doing is rather hard on both dealers and
owners. Detroit managed to skate by on corporate arrogance for decades,
too. Then those tin cans from Japan suddenly started making some real
inroads before the overly comfortable execs in Detroit ever knew what
hit them.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor