Flight plans lost?

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AirPlan runs under Vista... have you tried it?

Surprising.

My brother tells me that Vista doesn't run well......

with Vista!

Interesting that I have heard that Dell has quit offering Vista as the
standard OS.

My brother tells me (a computer using electrical engineer) that his
screaming fast new computer is so slow with Vista, that he often goes and
takes a bathroom break while it opens Adobe.

I'm not a micro$oft basher, but they screwed up big, this time.
--
Jim in NC

On Jun 23, 8:17 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
wrote

AirPlan runs under Vista... have you tried it?

Surprising.

My brother tells me that Vista doesn't run well......

with Vista!

Interesting that I have heard that Dell has quit offering Vista as the
standard OS.

My brother tells me (a computer using electrical engineer) that his
screaming fast new computer is so slow with Vista, that he often goes and
takes a bathroom break while it opens Adobe.

I'm not a micro$oft basher, but they screwed up big, this time.
--
Jim in NC

Jim,

Yes, I plan on avoiding Vista until I have heard otherwise... so far I
hear the same. At least I know that users of my software can run
under Vista. It doesn't like to allow the registration function to
work, but I have a work-around for that... I send a license file to
Vista users.

Dean

"Morgans" wrote:


My brother tells me (a computer using electrical engineer) that his
screaming fast new computer is so slow with Vista, that he often goes and
takes a bathroom break while it opens Adobe.

I'm not a micro$oft basher, but they screwed up big, this time.

Indeed.

We have no plans in our business for "upgrading" to Vista; not for customers'
machines, technicians' laptops or our own office workstations. We'll buy XP
Pro refurbs if we have to for as long as we can.

This will be a real test of Microsoft's power. It might be just the boost
Linux needs to go mainstream in a big way.

And you know Apple loves it.


--
Dan

“I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my
telephone; my wish has come true, because I can no longer figure out how
to use my telephone.”
- Bjarne Stroustrup

This will be a real test of Microsoft's power.

Microsoft can just wait, and machines will get more powerful, and people
will get used to the intrusive security.

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:09:21 -0400, Jose
wrote:

This will be a real test of Microsoft's power.

Microsoft can just wait, and machines will get more powerful, and people
will get used to the intrusive security.

Or they will get fed up with it, DRM, and rebel.
I already see a lot of computing professionals doing that. They only
go to Vista if they need to for programming. It's interesting to note
they have extended the support plans for XP to the point where it'll
be supported after Vista has been replaced with the next OS. At least
that is what they said a couple months back.

Jose

Or they will get fed up with it, DRM, and rebel.
I already see a lot of computing professionals doing that. They only
go to Vista if they need to for programming.

The way it seems to work is that new programs are written that use, and
even require, the new OS. Eventually people need those capabilites, and
pony up. Microsoft can afford to just sit and wait for that to happen.

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:42:22 -0400, Jose
wrote:

Or they will get fed up with it, DRM, and rebel.
I already see a lot of computing professionals doing that. They only
go to Vista if they need to for programming.

The way it seems to work is that new programs are written that use, and
even require, the new OS. Eventually people need those capabilites, and
pony up.

Maybe and maybe not. Most businesses can get by with less horsepower
and older apps without a problem. The only thing Vista has to offer is
it looks pretty and is a little more secure than XP with the default
settings which are a lot more annoying if you have to work on the
things. Of course the DRM comes free but adds overhead and reduces the
things you can do even with your own stuff, but so do the lack of
drivers.

Normally I'm an early adopter, but not this time.

Microsoft can afford to just sit and wait for that to happen.

Several trade journals have called Vista the ME of 2007.

Jose

On Jun 24, 9:26 am, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Morgans" wrote:

My brother tells me (a computer using electrical engineer) that his
screaming fast new computer is so slow with Vista, that he often goes and
takes a bathroom break while it opens Adobe.

I'm not a micro$oft basher, but they screwed up big, this time.

Indeed.

We have no plans in our business for "upgrading" to Vista; not for customers'
machines, technicians' laptops or our own office workstations. We'll buy XP
Pro refurbs if we have to for as long as we can.

This will be a real test of Microsoft's power. It might be just the boost
Linux needs to go mainstream in a big way.

And you know Apple loves it.

--
Dan

"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my
telephone; my wish has come true, because I can no longer figure out how
to use my telephone."
- Bjarne Stroustrup

Interesting read at http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/
vista_cost.html

Regards,
Jon

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On Jun 24, 9:26 am, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my
telephone; my wish has come true, because I can no longer figure out how
to use my telephone."
- Bjarne Stroustrup

Interesting read at
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html


I hear that corporations are staying away from Vista in droves. Even the
geeks are saying away.

When XP came out, the corporate world, big and small, flocked to it. Now
they're holding their noses for Vista and very many have not upgraded their
systems from Office 2003 or even Office 2000.

It took Microsoft how long to get the major bugs out of XP? Two years? Most
of us will be dead and buried before they get Vista stabilized.

Lose the corporate AND the vast majority of the consumer ("power user")
market, and you're in trouble. Lose the geeks and you're in SERIOUS trouble.

"Dan Luke" wrote

This will be a real test of Microsoft's power. It might be just the boost
Linux needs to go mainstream in a big way.

And you know Apple loves it.

Chuckle Yep!

One thing my sister in law says, is "they tried to make Vista look like the
Apple OS's. If I had wanted that, I would have gotten a Mac!"
--
Jim in NC