Lazy Eight's

On Jun 24, 7:51 am, "Dick" wrote:
After taking some rigorous Unusual Attitudes Training, now I can't do a
smooth Lazy Eight to save my soul G (or comfort my wife).

One item the course taught me was a Modified Wingover which allowed a blind
canyon 180* turn within a wingspan. Entry at 30* pitch & 30* bank proceeding
to 60* pitch & 60* bank at 90* point to entry. Then at 0 mph, the nose falls
without rudder assist and ball is too the side.

My procedure for the Lazy 8: entry at 15/15* P&B, then up to 30/30* P&B
at 90* to entry and down to 5-10 mph over stall using proper rudder control
and centered ball.

Unfortunately after I look left over the wing to line up with the entry
point and initiate first pitch/bank, I'm then at the 90* point and still too
fast.....

Advice please. Thanks, Dick

Why would anyone want to do a lazy-8 once they've completed their
commercial? I can understand doing an "8's on" (as a matter of fact, I
do them all the time), or a chandelle, but a lazy-8?

buttman wrote:


Why would anyone want to do a lazy-8 once they've completed their
commercial? I can understand doing an "8's on" (as a matter of fact, I
do them all the time), or a chandelle, but a lazy-8?


Because, if done correctly, they teach coordination and control. If
done correctly, they require more skill than a Chandelle, IMHO. And if
you want to have more fun and develop more skill, you can start out with
the standard 30 deg bank, then increase it to 45 deg, 60 deg, etc, until
you are doing wing overs on each turn (usual caveats, etc).

On Jun 24, 1:46 pm, buttman wrote:
On Jun 24, 7:51 am, "Dick" wrote:





After taking some rigorous Unusual Attitudes Training, now I can't do a
smooth Lazy Eight to save my soul G (or comfort my wife).

One item the course taught me was a Modified Wingover which allowed a blind
canyon 180* turn within a wingspan. Entry at 30* pitch & 30* bank proceeding
to 60* pitch & 60* bank at 90* point to entry. Then at 0 mph, the nose falls
without rudder assist and ball is too the side.

My procedure for the Lazy 8: entry at 15/15* P&B, then up to 30/30* P&B
at 90* to entry and down to 5-10 mph over stall using proper rudder control
and centered ball.

Unfortunately after I look left over the wing to line up with the entry
point and initiate first pitch/bank, I'm then at the 90* point and still too
fast.....

Advice please. Thanks, Dick

Why would anyone want to do a lazy-8 once they've completed their
commercial? I can understand doing an "8's on" (as a matter of fact, I
do them all the time), or a chandelle, but a lazy-8?- Hide quoted text -


Lazy 8 is one of the few maneuvers that is challenging, yet graceful
and relaxing. You can climb to a high altitude into smooth air, sit
back, take a deep breath. The maneuver is very demanding yet it won't
make you sweat or grip the yoke tight. Almost every time I fly solo
(which is not too often because most of my flights are with pax or
students), I do a few. But I don't do 8's-on pylons because I
consider bouncing at a few hundred feet while looking out for
obstacles and traffic is too much sweaty work.