Even Less Gloom?

"K Baum" wrote in message
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On Jun 22, 8:07 pm, Jonathan Goodish wrote:
America works best when you say "Yes, Union. Yes!"

It may work best for YOU, but not for the consumer.

not true. It is too simplistic to blame consumer issues on organized
labor.

That's not the point he's making (that it's _strictly_ union caused).



Personally, I have no problem with employees who want to organize.

Amen brother!

However, I do have a problem with the huge bias of labor laws toward the
unions that shut out competition (non-union workers). Unions are
nothing but big corporations that sell a service--labor--and are granted
a government monopoly when workers vote to become represented by a
union.

You are assuming closed shop negotiations. Why should non union
workers ride the coatails of the union guys?

Maybe because they're typically a bunch of thugs who do generate a few
bennies at a obscene cost?


It's a lose-lose between the consumers who have to pay more, and
the high-quality union workers who cannot be rewarded based on merit.

why are you assuming consumers lose? Let me explain, I have been union
for 16 years (ALPA), and just the safety issues that ALPA has
addressed in this time has been worth the cost of my dues. Would you
trust the FAA to implement safety inititaves by themselves?

Yes.

How many have ALPA rejected in terms of "full employment"?

Look at
the recent crap that went on at Jet Blue (Duty time violations). That
would have never happened at an ALPA carrier.


Absolute BS.

If you are paying a
little extra for a ticket, you can rest assured the added level of
safety is worth it. Now how does the consumer lose here?

By assuming the unions are interested primarily in safety.


For the unions themselves, the lazy union workers (of which there are
many), it's a win, at least until the company you work for goes bankrupt.

Ah, the old "Blame labor for management follies". A quick look at
recent airline bankruptcies will put this one to bed.

Oh, like United?