Are CFIs personable?

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in news:1182802390.885246.246600
@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Some people are personable, others are arrogant. I find that this applies to
any walk of life, regardless of occupation...


I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor. I'm a pretty so-so golfer and it really
turns me off that most instructors are very arrogant and stuck up. I
got to thinking that I sure hope students don't see CFIs the same way.
I've never considered myself better than my students so I sure help I
don't come off as arrogant in anyway. As a CFI I know that other CFIs
interact with me differently so I'm not sure I would know if other
CFIs are stuck up (as a CFI I often find that check out rides are
abbreviated, fees are reduced or instruction hours are under billed
for fellow CFIs).

I've never considered the holding of a CFI certificate to mean that
I'm any type of super pilot. In truth, anyone who takes enough
checkrides can get the certificate, its really something that any can
achieve. I hope other CFIs see it the same way.

-Robert, CFII

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor.

Hope this isn't par for the course :-))

Me too...I'd hate to get the shaft.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor. I'm a pretty so-so golfer and it really
turns me off that most instructors are very arrogant and stuck up.

I find both golf and flight instructors to be dry, rather colorless geeks.

(Present company excepted, of course) :~)

On Jun 25, 1:52 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor.

Hope this isn't par for the course :-))

You know, I guess what really irritates me about the golf instructors
is that they seen to think I should care that they are a better golfer
than I am. Yes, I acknowledge they are super God's of golf, yes, I
acknowledge that I'm a hacker who just wants to walk around on the
grass on a Sunday morning. But so what? I could see if someone said
they were a better brain surgeon than I am (if I was), that would be
impressive, but its just damn golf.
Its the same with flying. Sure, some guys can dust crops and fly under
wires and then land on a 400 foot field(I've done some of that) but
who cares? If all my student wants in aviation is to go out and fly
patterns for an hour on Sunday morning, there isn't anything wrong
with that. Besides, he's probably a better brain surgeon than I am.

-Robert

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor.
Hope this isn't par for the course :-))

Me too...I'd hate to get the shaft.


Then you'd need penalty strokes.

On Jun 25, 3:13 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor. I'm a pretty so-so golfer and it really
turns me off that most instructors are very arrogant and stuck up. I
got to thinking that I sure hope students don't see CFIs the same way.
I've never considered myself better than my students so I sure help I
don't come off as arrogant in anyway. As a CFI I know that other CFIs
interact with me differently so I'm not sure I would know if other
CFIs are stuck up (as a CFI I often find that check out rides are
abbreviated, fees are reduced or instruction hours are under billed
for fellow CFIs).

I've never considered the holding of a CFI certificate to mean that
I'm any type of super pilot. In truth, anyone who takes enough
checkrides can get the certificate, its really something that any can
achieve. I hope other CFIs see it the same way.

-Robert, CFII

Robert
I can't think of anything more arrogant that a CFI who works as a golf
pro and tells you at every opportunity! gg
Certainly a lot of new or younger CFIs will try to impress you with
their new found credentials and I don't see any particular flaw in
that youthful exhuberance. But, if it affects the job at hand, either
the customer, or a more seasoned CFI should to say something. The
student doesn't yet know what they don't know but they can certainly
see people skills and especially when they are paying for it?
I try not to forget what it was like back in the dark ages and I only
had 500 hours of experience. Here I am 50+ years later and still
learning with 24,000 hours. At least the youngsters I fly with are
willing to learn and seem to pay attention when it comes to customer
relations.
BTW, we prohibit golfers from coming to our place. They keep diggin up
the flight line with their terrible swing....gg

I can't think of anything more arrogant that a CFI who works as a golf
pro and tells you at every opportunity! gg

I can't think of anything more arrogant that a golf pro who works as a
CFI and tells you at every opportunity? gg

Jose
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor.
Hope this isn't par for the course :-))

Me too...I'd hate to get the shaft.


Then you'd need penalty strokes.

That wood hurt!

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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor.
Hope this isn't par for the course :-))

Me too...I'd hate to get the shaft.


Then you'd need penalty strokes.

That wood hurt!

I hate the way people are always putting other people down on this
newsgroup.

On 2007-06-27 06:25:30 -0700, Roy Smith said:

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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
I was talking to a friend today about how difficult it is to find a
personable golf instructor.
Hope this isn't par for the course :-))

Me too...I'd hate to get the shaft.


Then you'd need penalty strokes.

That wood hurt!

I hate the way people are always putting other people down on this
newsgroup.

Blasted mashie niblick.
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