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Old June 28th 07, 01:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"william" wrote in message news:fbzgi.11573$xy.11256@trnddc06...
One more thing I would like to point out on the corn- food-ethanol debate is that making ethanol uses only the starch
in corn. The protein is still there and is used as a high quality feed, called dried distillers grains or DDG. It is
mostly feed to cattle. The most effecient ethanol plants have a feed lot next to them and the solids are feed wet to
the cattle saving the energy usually used to dry the stuff. The cattle manure is used as a source of methane for
energy to run the ethanol plant. It still requires additional energy, but every savings helps. There are other
byproducts of the process to, but my point is a lot of the corn still is used as food. The main study the media likes
to quote to discredit ethanol was done about 20 years ago and is hopelessly out of date.



It is hopeless alright...


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Old June 28th 07, 12:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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It is hopeless alright...



Not to worry! The coming market correction will render large segments
of the population incapable of buying gasohol... That alone will
reduce our energy imbalance there is always a silver lining...

denny


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Old June 29th 07, 05:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:56:04 -0700, Denny wrote:



It is hopeless alright...



Not to worry! The coming market correction will render large segments
of the population incapable of buying gasohol... That alone will
reduce our energy imbalance there is always a silver lining...


Man, you're about as pessimistic as my doctor! :-)) You must be
related.


denny

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Old July 2nd 07, 12:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Jun 29, 12:16 am, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:56:04 -0700, Denny wrote:

It is hopeless alright...


Not to worry! The coming market correction will render large segments
of the population incapable of buying gasohol... That alone will
reduce our energy imbalance there is always a silver lining...


Man, you're about as pessimistic as my doctor! :-)) You must be
related.





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Did you notice that the Clintons bailed out of the market, converting
some $25M into cash and CD's?
They are lawyers so just pay attention to what they are doing not what
they are saying if their lips are movin', etc., ... Being the
ultimate insiders, they know something the peons don't..
I made my decision... Yeah, I may miss a good year for the market -
the year before an election traditionally being prime the pump time by
the congress - but then again, I may look like a genius a year from
now... We shall see...

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Old July 2nd 07, 05:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Denny wrote:

On Jun 29, 12:16 am, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:56:04 -0700, Denny wrote:


It is hopeless alright...


Not to worry! The coming market correction will render large segments
of the population incapable of buying gasohol... That alone will
reduce our energy imbalance there is always a silver lining...


Man, you're about as pessimistic as my doctor! :-)) You must be
related.






denny- Hide quoted text -


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Did you notice that the Clintons bailed out of the market, converting
some $25M into cash and CD's?
They are lawyers so just pay attention to what they are doing not what
they are saying if their lips are movin', etc., ... Being the
ultimate insiders, they know something the peons don't..
I made my decision... Yeah, I may miss a good year for the market -
the year before an election traditionally being prime the pump time by
the congress - but then again, I may look like a genius a year from
now... We shall see...


Oh boy - here we go...
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Old July 2nd 07, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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("cavelamb himself" wrote)
Did you notice that the Clintons bailed out of the market, converting
some $25M into cash and CD's?


Oh boy - here we go...



(NAC) Necessary Aviation Content:
The PBS special on LBJ (which aired years ago) mentioned how he came to the
Senate/White House with squat, and left with a mini fortune - much of it
through land dealings.

Something about the selection site for the "new" Dallas airport magically
being on (or near) property he had recently acquired. g


Paul-Mont


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Old July 2nd 07, 11:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
cavelamb himself
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Montblack wrote:

("cavelamb himself" wrote)

Did you notice that the Clintons bailed out of the market, converting
some $25M into cash and CD's?



Oh boy - here we go...




(NAC) Necessary Aviation Content:
The PBS special on LBJ (which aired years ago) mentioned how he came to the
Senate/White House with squat, and left with a mini fortune - much of it
through land dealings.

Something about the selection site for the "new" Dallas airport magically
being on (or near) property he had recently acquired. g


Paul-Mont



Shoot! That's almost the same thing that happened back in Arkansas when
he became governor. Old habits are hard to break...
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Old July 3rd 07, 06:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Roger (K8RI)
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:32:10 -0700, Denny wrote:

On Jun 29, 12:16 am, "Roger (K8RI)" wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:56:04 -0700, Denny wrote:

It is hopeless alright...


Not to worry! The coming market correction will render large segments
of the population incapable of buying gasohol... That alone will
reduce our energy imbalance there is always a silver lining...


Man, you're about as pessimistic as my doctor! :-)) You must be
related.





denny- Hide quoted text -


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Did you notice that the Clintons bailed out of the market, converting
some $25M into cash and CD's?
They are lawyers so just pay attention to what they are doing not what
they are saying if their lips are movin', etc., ... Being the
ultimate insiders, they know something the peons don't..
I made my decision... Yeah, I may miss a good year for the market -
the year before an election traditionally being prime the pump time by
the congress - but then again, I may look like a genius a year from
now... We shall see...


We are overdue, but things are not badly over priced and an election
year is coming up. Based on that I'd hang in there for another 6
months and re-evaluate, but I was wrong once in my younger days:-))


 




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