Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

Snowbird writes:

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

There's no such thing as "aviation language."

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

German isn't the international language of air traffic control.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Snowbird writes:

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

There's no such thing as "aviation language."

You don't fly, so you wouldn't know.

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:17:36 +0300, "Snowbird"
mangled uncounted electrons thus:


"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english

Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

grin You all overlook the fact that English speaking perfect
English are also extremely rare...

Martin D. Pay
Yes, I'm English - and I frequently wonder at the atrocities
perpetrated on our mother-tongue by my fellow citizens...

Martin D. Pay wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:17:36 +0300, "Snowbird"
mangled uncounted electrons thus:
Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

grin You all overlook the fact that English speaking perfect
English are also extremely rare...

Martin D. Pay
Yes, I'm English - and I frequently wonder at the atrocities
perpetrated on our mother-tongue by my fellow citizens...

So what is the "Perfect English" way to pronounce "tomato"?
Is "ain't" considered a word in "Perfect English"?
For that matter, which accent is "Perfect English"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regiona...glish_speakers
http://www.otago.ac.nz/anthropology/...ds/Sounds.html
http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/

And just who defines "Perfect English" and what is their e-mail address?

(Big wink on all the above.)

"Jim Logajan" wrote ...


And just who defines "Perfect English" and what is their e-mail address?

(Big wink on all the above.)

I don' gnow from "Perfect", but old aviators and those forced to converse
with them often leave clues like...."Niner". Really suave sorts even use
quaint expressions such as...."Bingo Button 13", while super sophisticates
will gravely pronounce for all to hear, witticisms such as...."Allstar 503,
at the 90, down and dirty, 3.2....."

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:50:17 -0000, Jim Logajan
mangled uncounted electrons thus:

Martin D. Pay wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:17:36 +0300, "Snowbird"
mangled uncounted electrons thus:
Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

grin You all overlook the fact that English speaking perfect
English are also extremely rare...

Martin D. Pay
Yes, I'm English - and I frequently wonder at the atrocities
perpetrated on our mother-tongue by my fellow citizens...

So what is the "Perfect English" way to pronounce "tomato"?

The English way - long 'a' in the middle. (Heaven knows where the
Americans found their pronunciation!)

Is "ain't" considered a word in "Perfect English"?

It used to be. It still is, in America.

For that matter, which accent is "Perfect English"?

It used to be called 'BBC English', 'the King's/Queen's English'
or (more correctly now) 'Received Pronunciation'...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Received_Pronunciation


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regiona...glish_speakers
http://www.otago.ac.nz/anthropology/...ds/Sounds.html
http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/

We have a wonderful variety of dialects. It's almost true that a
Geordie (Newcastle-upon-Tyne) has trouble understanding a Cockney
(London, of course) - and vice versa! And as for anyone from
southern England understanding someone from central Glasgow...
^_-

And just who defines "Perfect English" and what is their e-mail address?

The BBC, once upon a time. Back in days of Lord Reith, when radio
presenters had to wear dinner jackets...

(Big wink on all the above.)

Absolutely! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

Martin D. Pay
Talking about language is almost as much fun as using it!

Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

Americans who speak perfect English are rare too.

They speak it far better than Germans, for obvious reasons.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

Americans who speak perfect English are rare too.

They speak it far better than Germans, for obvious reasons.

Not obvious to me. Every german I know speaks perfect english, although with
an accent.

El Maximo writes:

Not obvious to me. Every german I know speaks perfect english, although with
an accent.

I hardly know any Germans who speak perfect English.

Mxsmanic wrote:
El Maximo writes:

Not obvious to me. Every german I know speaks perfect english, although
with
an accent.

I hardly know any Germans who speak perfect English.

You live in France.

I live in a third country, neither Germany nor France, but with a large
number of expats from both.

Most of the Germans I know arrived here with decent or fluent English
and within a few years were perfectly fluent.

Most of the French I know arrived here with almost no usable English and
had to spend evenings doing tuition in order to catch up. All but one
have thick accents and use very strange constructions on a very regular
basis.

On the other hand, they are much more interested in the language and its
eccentricities than the Germans, who seem to just regard English as a
basic skill to be mastered and then taken for granted.

miguel
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