B Nice war - here's the bill

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:16:26 +0100, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:

In message , Alan Minyard
writes

The UN is a useless debating society, bent on doing nothing.

Worked pretty well at getting Hussein out of Kuwait in 1991.

And came to the aid of South Korea in 1950.

Not to mention the eradication of smallpox, the polio eradication
efforts, all the good work done by UNICEF and the other UN agencies.
Since I have friends working in various parts of the UN, it's rather
irritating to hear so many people ignorantly assuming the UNSC is the
whole of the UN work, rather than a small fraction.

Peter Kemp

In article ,
Peter Kemp peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:16:26 +0100, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:

In message , Alan Minyard
writes

The UN is a useless debating society, bent on doing nothing.

Worked pretty well at getting Hussein out of Kuwait in 1991.

And came to the aid of South Korea in 1950.

Not to mention the eradication of smallpox, the polio eradication
efforts, all the good work done by UNICEF and the other UN agencies.
Since I have friends working in various parts of the UN, it's rather
irritating to hear so many people ignorantly assuming the UNSC is the
whole of the UN work, rather than a small fraction.

Instead of mentioning the wonderful things the UN did 30 to 50 years
ago, how about mentioning what really cool things they've done *lately*
to balance out the stupid things, like the mockery they've made of the
Human Rights Commission? Or the disaster that was the "oil for food"
program?"

Kofi Annan's vocal support of Saddam Hussein was a severe black mark for
the UN, and it's shocking that more people don't know anout that...

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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 02:12:50 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

In article ,
Peter Kemp peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:16:26 +0100, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:

In message , Alan Minyard
writes

The UN is a useless debating society, bent on doing nothing.

Worked pretty well at getting Hussein out of Kuwait in 1991.

And came to the aid of South Korea in 1950.

Not to mention the eradication of smallpox, the polio eradication
efforts, all the good work done by UNICEF and the other UN agencies.
Since I have friends working in various parts of the UN, it's rather
irritating to hear so many people ignorantly assuming the UNSC is the
whole of the UN work, rather than a small fraction.

Instead of mentioning the wonderful things the UN did 30 to 50 years
ago, how about mentioning what really cool things they've done *lately*
to balance out the stupid things, like the mockery they've made of the
Human Rights Commission? Or the disaster that was the "oil for food"
program?"

Err, you may want check what I wrote. Small pox was only eradicated in
the last 20 years (which is why I have my scar from the shot), polio
is in the process *now*, UNICEF is still up and running last time I
checked.

Kofi Annan's vocal support of Saddam Hussein was a severe black mark for
the UN, and it's shocking that more people don't know anout that...

Splutter! What? I've never heard Kofi saying anything stronger than
"Iraq must comply" in favour of the old regime. Cite please (and since
the UN publishes almost all it's press conferences you should be able
to provide a URL).

Peter Kemp

In article ,
Peter Kemp peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 02:12:50 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

Instead of mentioning the wonderful things the UN did 30 to 50 years
ago, how about mentioning what really cool things they've done *lately*
to balance out the stupid things, like the mockery they've made of the
Human Rights Commission? Or the disaster that was the "oil for food"
program?"

Err, you may want check what I wrote. Small pox was only eradicated in
the last 20 years (which is why I have my scar from the shot),

You might want to check some dates. Smallpox was "declared eradicated"
in 1980, after the last naturally-occurring case in 1977, and the
program was started in 1967 (with most of the work being done in the
first four or five years).

polio is in the process *now*,

....as it has been since the 1950s. They're starting a big push, but
it's nowhere near the task smallpox was.

UNICEF is still up and running last time I checked.

Yep. That program that was started a couple of generation ago is still
more or less in place.

Kofi Annan's vocal support of Saddam Hussein was a severe black mark
for the UN, and it's shocking that more people don't know anout
that...

Splutter! What? I've never heard Kofi saying anything stronger than
"Iraq must comply" in favour of the old regime. Cite please (and
since the UN publishes almost all it's press conferences you should
be able to provide a URL).

"I can do business with Saddam Hussein" was one of his most famous
quotes, from the 1998 meeting when Annan met with Hussein to try and get
inspections back on track. Five years later, they still weren't. That
pretty much tells you what sort of business that was.

Annan made a few aggressive noises, and has always had the threat
hanging, but has always resisted anything other than bureaucratic moves.

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